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Schizophrenia is often described in terms of positive (or productive) and negative (or deficit) symptoms. Positive symptoms include delusions, auditory hallucinations, and thought disorder, and are typically regarded as manifestations of psychosis. Negative symptoms are so-named because they are considered to be the loss or absence of normal traits or abilities, and include features such as flat or blunted affect and emotion, poverty of speech (alogia), inability to experience pleasure (anhedonia), and lack of motivation (avolition). Despite the appearance of blunted affect, recent studies indicate that there is often a normal or even heightened level of emotionality in schizophrenia, especially in response to stressful or negative events. A third symptom grouping, the disorganization syndrome, is commonly described, and includes chaotic speech, thought, and behaviour. There is evidence for a number of other symptom classifications.
Originally posted by Frankidealist35
reply to post by AccessDenied
Okay... schizoprenia basically is a mental disorder given to people who have absolute belief and faith in something they believe in that isn't provable by scientific means? Whatever happened to our first amendment rights?
[edit on 26-8-2008 by Frankidealist35]
That would depend on who you ask.
My only experience is with my ex, diagnosed as bi-polar, and schizophrenic, with delusions of grandeur.
In my opinion, science doesn't even come close to knowing what the human mind is capable of. That being said, it doesn't mean that if the voices could be proven to be real, that they are indeed from God.
If you believe that the spirit never dies and that there are those that manipulate in the physical world, this could be proof of that. Just my theory of course, but just as possible.
First amendment rights?
Freedom of speech huh.
Well now, have you ever tried to carry on a conversation with someone who has this disorder?
It's not pretty. It can be scary as hell.
A person who walks in circles or paces while speaking out loud to someone whom you cannot see. Who claims to be the only one with the message to save man from his own destruction.
Who looks for signs in numbers, and letters, and names of places in people.
Who sees the dialogue in a random TV show as GOD speaking to them directly.
Who tells you that you will burn in hell if you don't follow what they say.
Who stands on the street corner with bible in hand preaching to anyone who will listen. Who goes on a week long trek into the woods , naked, to be closer to god.
Will YOU be the one to stand by an individual like this? Will YOU be their advocate? Or would you seek the professional help they need...????
Originally posted by andre18
What about when Bush talks with god, is that schizophrenia? Your president is schizophrenic…..LOL
Originally posted by KyoZero
Well done AD
Yes I have talekd to several who suffer from paranoid schizophrenia and SAD.
It is scary as all get out sometimes and they do need professional help. They will need help that I cannot give even when I find my masters. Some people DO need medical treatment and not just a talking to.
The problem I have is when a person claims they talk to God and they are not paranoid, not suffering flattened affect or any of the rest of the symptoms outside of delusion and hallucinations. Who am I to say it isn't really God or the Goddess talking? What if the person claims it's been going on for years but doesn't represent a danger. Do we lock them up if they suffer what others deem as a 'delusion'?
Look I realize that paranoid schizophreniacs can represent a major danger to themselves and others but the world of the DSM and pscyhology goes well beyond just that diagnosis.