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Topic started on 25-8-2008 @ 11:46 AM by Benevolent Heretic
The Democratic National Convention begins tonight and I thought it would be nice to have a thread in which to discuss thoughts about it and the coverage, speakers and the general hoopla.

The Main Speakers:

According to the schedule, Monday night's headline speaker will be Michelle Obama. She will speak sometime between 7-9 PM Colorado time. I'm excited and eager to hear her speak. I have a great deal of admiration for her.

Tuesday night, Hillary Clinton will be at the mike. I am also curious to hear her speech. It will be interesting to see whether she puts her full energy behind Obama or if a feeling of resentment will be detectable. I would also like to hear Kathleen Sebelius on this evening. She was one person I thought Obama might pick for VP.

Wednesday evening, Joe Biden and Bill Clinton will both speak. Even more than Hillary, I think it's important that the "Old Man" gets behind Obama and shows his genuine support and confidence in Obama's ability to hold the office with competence.

And of course, Thursday night is when they move to INVESCO Field where Barack Obama will accept the Democratic nomination and, no doubt, deliver another outstanding and moving speech. It's going to be tough to beat his convention speech of 2004, but I'm sure it will be good.

Other featured speakers and performances are listed on the schedule page linked above.

The Venue:

The Pepsi Center in Denver Colorado is ready for quite a show.

This site has a poster of INVESCO Field, where Obama will accept the nomination, that can be enlarged for an idea of the magnitude and spectacle of this place and this event. There will be a Skycam to capture Obama's acceptance speech at the event, which sold out its 75,000 seats within 24 hours of going on sale. The celebrity of this event goes without saying.

I am curious if others are as excited about the conventions as I am this year. I have the feeling that this election is one of the more important ones in the past 20-30 years, but it could just be my own perception. I look forward to reading your thoughts on this event over the next few days.

[edit on 25-8-2008 by Benevolent Heretic]


reply posted on 26-8-2008 @ 11:53 AM by kidflash2008
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I watched Michelle Obama's speech. A lot of negative press is around her, and I think she delivered a heart felt speech that defined her roots as a daughter of a working class man. I don't think the people who hate her will change their minds, but I think many who don't know anything about her would be touched by it.
Teddy Kennedy gave a great speech. I don't agree with some of his positions, but I know he deeply cares about people. He didn't look like he had any cancer, but since my father passed away from cancer, I know looks can be deceiving.
I flipped around when the other speeches were on as it was Monday and just a warm up day.
Tonight, Hillary will speak and we'll see how she embraces Sen. Obama. I think this will be her shining moment. It is interesting how all the pundants are using poll numbers and other bits to build up a "tension" between the two candidates. I guess they need something to happen, or they don't get paid.


reply posted on 26-8-2008 @ 03:27 PM by Benevolent Heretic
As Clinton prepares to give her speech tonight, I was wondering...

What is Clinton's Role in Getting her Supporters to Vote for Obama?

We all know Hillary Clinton and Barack Obama were fierce competitors during the primaries, but now that Obama is ready to accept the nomination, it's clear that he won and it's just as clear (to me) that Hillary has graciously conceded and on we go to the General Election.

However, there is some small portion of Hillary supporters who are determined not to vote for Obama for various reasons. They may stay home, they may write-in Clinton's name or they may vote for McCain or someone else entirely.

It seems to me that the vast majority of people who supported Clinton will transfer their vote to Obama, but there is that group that (for lack of a better phrase) needs to be convinced to cast their vote for Obama.

I have been thinking that Hillary's speech at the convention tonight will be VITAL in convincing her supporters to vote for Obama. I have been thinking that she should beg, borrow and steal (figuratively) to convince them that he is what this country needs. In essence, I have seen it as her responsibility to "transfer" her supporters to Obama.

I heard an interesting comment on CSPAN this morning that really woke me up and forced a realization. A woman, a delegate, in fact, was being interviewed and she said she was going to cast her vote for Hillary. When asked what Hillary could say tonight that would make her vote for Obama, she answered, "It's not Hillary's job to convince me to vote for Obama. It's Obama's job to convince me to vote for him. Hillary has nothing to do with it." (paraphrased)

And I found myself immediate understanding and agreeing with her. All this time, I've been thinking that Hillary holds the power to "give" her supporters over to Obama and I now realize that HE is responsible for "winning" their votes. It's very important that he lets that specific group know that he NEEDS their votes.

I just thought it was an interesting realization.

So, what are your thoughts on Hillary's role tonight as she gives this all-important speech?


reply posted on 26-8-2008 @ 04:28 PM by kidflash2008
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At the same time, many of the ones who are upset won't even listen to Sen. Obama. There is a same percentage who state they will not vote for McCain, so this argument actually wipes the other guy out. If the women who voted for Hillary were her true supporters, they would vote for Sen. Obama. Hillary is way more liberal than Sen. Obama.
I think Ralph Nader and Bob Barr will benefit from the ones who are upset at who won or didn't win. We still have to see who McCain picks as VP. If it is Sen. Lieberman or Mayor Giuliani, we may see Bob Barr benefiting big time. Ralph Nader is up to 4% in polls because of the mess in the primaries.


reply posted on 27-8-2008 @ 09:05 AM by Benevolent Heretic
I agree, kid. Many people are, for lack of a better term, envious or jealous that Obama took the prize (they feel) away from Hillary. They see him as the bad guy who burned Hillary. In my opinion, they're obviously not thinking clearly about what is at stake, what's important.

I thought Hillary did a fantastic job on her speech last night. Several points she made that I thought were important:

1. Were you just in this campaign just for me (Hillary)? Or were you in it for the people in this country who need the help that Barack Obama can give them?

2. Think about AFTER the election... The future of our children hangs in the balance. It's easy to get caught up in resentment when your team doesn't win, but there's a bigger picture to think about.

3. She was funny! "Sister of the traveling pantsuits" and George Bush and John McCain in the Twin Cities is appropriate, because who can tell them apart? LOL

I thought she was fantastic! Some may argue that she should have stumped more for Obama, but I don't think that was her purpose last night and she may have come across as disingenuous. I think she needed to show HER support and then let the people decide. If she had begged her supporters to vote for him or said how much of a "great leader" he would be, it would have had the impression of stuffing him down their throats and maybe even a little bit hypocritical, considering what she said about him in the primaries. And Obama detractors would have jumped all over that.


reply posted on 27-8-2008 @ 12:07 PM by kidflash2008
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Hillary did deliver an awesome speech. I also liked the Governor of Montana. He has a folksy down to Earth demeanor and delivered some good jabs at the Republicans.
I don't like the news networks coverage as they only pick out a couple of speeches. There were many that were much better than Gov. Warner of Virginia's, but they did not even mention them. C-Span is the way to watch the convention.
I am looking forward to Bill Clinton's speech at 9pm ET/5 pm PT and of course Joe Biden's speech at 11pm ET and 8pm PT.
The Daily Show and Colbert Report are excellent follow ups at night.


reply posted on 28-8-2008 @ 12:16 PM by kidflash2008
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I liked both Bill Clinton and Joe Biden's speeches. They both had to do what they had to do.
I also think no matter what they say in their speeches, they will be criticized for going to far or not going far enough. Tonight it the big night with Sen. Obama's acceptance speech. Are the pundits setting the bar too high? We'll see.
Tomorrow, Sen. McClain will pick his running mate, giving him the prime time spot (without the Olympics in the way this weekend). Interesting to see how well he uses the time.

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