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Barack Obama and John McCain are Related!


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reply posted on 25-8-2008 @ 12:37 AM by duffster


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I think you will find it's called 6 degrees of separation but we under stand what you were trying to say

The funny thing about this is i'm sure they all know each other even when they say they don't.

Never trust the Government



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reply posted on 25-8-2008 @ 12:38 AM by mystiq


On his mother's side, Obama is related to the House of Windsor. I've read that a while ago.
Bloodline is very important to these people, and everyone else is just a serf, completely expendable. One day soon one the most important goals will be achieved by these bloodlines, Prince William will be crowned, and then in effect a Rothschilde will have the throne of England, as that was the actual importance of Lady Di's bloodline. inpursuitofhappiness.wordpress.com...

I have been saying every chance I get, that we will only be free when we elect and average joe or joeanne, and not a bloodline.

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reply posted on 25-8-2008 @ 12:40 AM by iiinvision


Originally posted by Andrew E. Wiggin
not to offend anyone - seriously

but what makes me most angry about stories like this is when someone comes out and says "see, this is proof that all men of power are connected to the four horsemen of the Apocalypse as it appears in the 7th chapter of the ancient Mediterranean sea scrolls"


this kind of "Investigation" isnt proof of anything other than someone actually had enough time to trace lineages to show that through 22 degrees of relation, the two men are related.


you shouldn't be angry. Its called the six degrees of separation and it doesn't apply to genealogy in most cases.



Six degrees of separation refers to the idea that, if a person is one step away from each person they know and two steps away from each person who is known by one of the people they know, then everyone is an average of six "steps" away from each person on Earth.


===wiki on six degrees of separation

CNN article on candidate relative ties


we are not all related by blood, but there is proof all around you that most presidents of the u.s. and candidates are related to royalty.

It only seems absurd because its probably the opinion of someone else that you identify with that it is merely rubbish. It doesn't out right prove that there is a giant conspiracy, but these people are not overt. They are subtle.

I tend to believe that there is a lot more going on behind closed doors than we would like to think. If you are a person who has not come to terms with your fear than your magnificent brain will find a way to constantly prove to you that which you want to believe, regardless of the mounds of evidence.

Nobody is going to come out on live television and admit this stuff with documents, and there wont be coverage of anything on t.v. Thats not how it works, but look around you. The truth is right in front of you in the mainstream. It takes the right kind of eyes to see it though.

Being scared is what they want. It not only robs you of your own psychic energy, and renders you helpless and dependent, but it also keeps you from seeing the bigger picture.

Denial is a powerful thing...



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reply posted on 25-8-2008 @ 12:41 AM by jpm1602


To be honest jhill. I did not read this thread out. Forgive me for my ignorance. Peace.
I just b slapped myself. I really did.

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reply posted on 25-8-2008 @ 12:43 AM by schrodingers dog


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This 6 degrees thingie.
Does it mean that I might be related to both wiggin AND jetxnet?




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reply posted on 25-8-2008 @ 12:43 AM by Andrew E. Wiggin


Originally posted by mystiq
On his mother's side, Obama is related to the House of Windsor. I've read that a while ago.
Bloodline is very important to these people, and everyone else is just a serf, completely expendable. One day soon one the most important goals will be achieved by these bloodlines, Prince William will be crowned, and then in effect a Rothschilde will have the throne of England, as that was the actual importance of Lady Di's bloodline. inpursuitofhappiness.wordpress.com...

I have been saying every chance I get, that we will only be free when we elect and average joe or joeanne, and not a bloodline.

[edit on 25-8-2008 by mystiq]


See?

The ancient sea scrolls of stargate SG-2972.29 from stardate 229.2912 says that ______________(Insert conspiracy here)


They're not related.
Its not a conspiracy.

They were born from fornicating parents just like you and i.

They both served their country in one way or another
they both paid taxes

there is no conspiracy.

I would hate to live the life of someone who thought picking dandelions was destroying an archaic civilization through some paradoxical form of 6th dimensional existance


whoah
it sounds silly just saying it how it is...



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reply posted on 25-8-2008 @ 12:44 AM by jhill76


Originally posted by schrodingers dog
reply to post by iiinvision



This 6 degrees thingie.
Does it mean that I might be related to both wiggin AND jetxnet?




Now that's a good one!

What about that cop that pulled me over for speeding? Can I say we are related and get off, or get that family discount at GM?



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reply posted on 25-8-2008 @ 12:44 AM by iceofspades


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I wouldn't say I'm in denial, I just choose to be skeptical. All I mean is that in order for me to buy that this ancestry deal is an actual conspiracy, I'd have to research more about genealogy. Unfortunately ancestry.com isn't free (joke)

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reply posted on 25-8-2008 @ 12:46 AM by Andrew E. Wiggin


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That wouldnt be a bad thing though, now would it?


Hey - since we're family now - can i borrow some money

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I wonder how they came to this conclusion, btw, and if they'd be willing to offer the family tree comparisons and notes as proof of their findings



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reply posted on 25-8-2008 @ 12:49 AM by mystiq


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They're not related.
Its not a conspiracy.



And thats not true. It is a conspiracy. To ignore the facts is to remain forever a slave. But strangely enough one who knows how to read, comprehend, connect the dots, and then shrug it all off. I've known this stuff for some time now.

[edit on 25-8-2008 by mystiq]



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reply posted on 25-8-2008 @ 12:49 AM by Agit8dChop


What a BS thread.

Whats happenend to capitals in thread titles?

... want to be technical, you, me and every other person is related to Mccain.

We are all the same species.. and we started at Adam and Eve, if you believe that.



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reply posted on 25-8-2008 @ 12:49 AM by schrodingers dog


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Quadripolarity is not a a laughing matter!
This is magnificently explained at length here.

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reply posted on 25-8-2008 @ 12:51 AM by jpm1602


Wiggin and jexnet. Now I'm dying. Please...just shoot me now. Please. You can squat in my basement Wiggins, just don't make a lot of noise please.

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reply posted on 25-8-2008 @ 12:54 AM by Andrew E. Wiggin


Originally posted by mystiq
reply to post by Andrew E. Wiggin




They're not related.
Its not a conspiracy.



And thats not true. It is a conspiracy. To ignore the facts is to remain forever a slave. But strangely enough one who knows how to read, comprehend, connect the dots, and then shrug it all off. I've known this stuff for some time now.

[edit on 25-8-2008 by mystiq]



facts can be proven

your theories cannot

i'd like to refer you to this website where you can look up the definition to words like "fact" and "proof" and see that what you try to pass off as both, would be more appropriately described as an "antonym" to the definition of "truth"


further more:

I've known this stuff for some time now.



who are you? And what forms of credibility can you possibly offer that we should take what "you" know as factual reference to the truth?

[edit on 8/25/2008 by Andrew E. Wiggin]



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reply posted on 25-8-2008 @ 12:59 AM by Andrew E. Wiggin


Originally posted by jpm1602
Wiggin and jexnet. Now I'm dying. Please...just shoot me now. Please. You can squat in my basement Wiggins, just don't make a lot of noise please.

[edit on 8/25/2008 by jpm1602]


rofl

what does that mean????


Besides, i dont like the cuffed chains on the wall

scares me



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reply posted on 25-8-2008 @ 01:02 AM by jpm1602


Sometimes this site can be so HIlarious. I have to laugh. I hope you can laugh too.



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reply posted on 25-8-2008 @ 01:06 AM by Ravinsomniac


I thought they were related to Adam and Eve..



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reply posted on 25-8-2008 @ 01:08 AM by jpm1602


Ha ha ha. They are velvety cloaked. Won't cause too much pain.
Originally posted by Andrew E. Wiggin
Originally posted by jpm1602
Wiggin and jexnet. Now I'm dying. Please...just shoot me now. Please. You can squat in my basement Wiggins, just don't make a lot of noise please.
Ag choppers, get over yourself. I'm scratching virtual areas now that will remain unknown.

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rofl

what does that mean????


Besides, i dont like the cuffed chains on the wall

scares me




[edit on 8/25/2008 by jpm1602]



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reply posted on 25-8-2008 @ 01:14 AM by Andrew E. Wiggin


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we are not all related by blood, but there is proof all around you that most presidents of the u.s. and candidates are related to royalty.


and there's proof that we're related to royalty too

22nd cousins isnt a relation

its called people from that era had children who had children who had some children and those children had children

who eventually had children who were related to the parents of people like mccain and obama

its silly and completely makes no sense..

NOW


If the OP had said something like

"Obama related to hitler through grandmother's sister-in-law" thats a little different

you have Obama's grandmother - who raised him - so you can consider her his "MOTHER" and through his grandmother, her sister-in-law was sisters with Hitler


that'd be a story

that'd be a "conspiracy"

but its not

we're talking about 22nd cousins

you might as well be saying that i'm related to the engineers responsible for sputnik

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