Untersberg - The Mystery Mountain

reply to post by BlueOrb


Thank you, that's great.

And yes, I am sure the terrain itself does account for at least SOME of the disappearances.
There are many areas in the Alps that are famous for their many (so far) unexplained disappearances - some of which, judging by the accounts, happened very quickly.
People often underestimate nature and its "mysteries".

P.S. From the website above:

Best maps to use are:
Kompass no. 794, scale 1:25000, Berchtesgadener Land
Kompass no. 14, scale 1:50000, Berchtesgadener Land/Chiemgauer Alpen

Now we know.




[edit on 6-2-2010 by Vanitas]

Originally posted by NathanNewZealand
reply to post by Skyfloating

 

Hamelyn, it's in Germany. The Piper lead the children into a mountain. Vanishing forever. You've all heard it. It's not a made up story like The Lion King, look it up. It happened.

Ok....this post sent a chill all the way down my to my feet...litterly.... For those who have read some of my threads relating to dreams, you know I "feel" things.

I can feel that this statement is true and it scares the Bjesus out of me.

As for the OP. All I can say is wow. Excellant work, and thank you .Looking forward to reading entire thread.

Originally posted by BlueOrb
reply to post by Skyfloating

 

There is a (surprisingly) thourough entry on Wikipedia for the Pied Piper, and i think the best explanatio for this is that the "children" were not in fact kids, but people (adults) who were born in Hamelin, who then left the town to populate some region further away, pehaps in Czechoslovakia. The Piper, could have been a representative of the landowner who owned the lands they left the villeg for. Various other scenarios are also suggested, but it would seeem that this story, or myth, is more of a local history tale that has been passed down and embellished over the years, rather than anything to do with what we are discussing here.

My thoughts on the Pied Piper story, posted way back in the thread. I'm not saying it's the gospel, but certainly is one school of thought on the roots of the tale.

Originally posted by Skyfloating
continued from previous posts


5. Personal Experiences Part 2
My two extraordinay experiences involved vivid and lucid dreams at night in a Hotel there and spotting a glowing Orb descending behind some trees beside the mountain while walking through woods at the mountain side. This was at night, in the rain. The Orb was purple and something I will never forget.

The legends are widely known, but the dwarfs seem not have been seen since a century. None of the locals report any sightings. Most material on them predates the 20th Century.

I find these two points of your story the most intresting.Espically the latter . The lack of sightings would give rise to the possibility of a preperation , busy the bee's are mesa thinks.

Originally posted by Vanitas
Clearly an expedition is needed.
Then again, I am sure White Eagle and/or others have combed the area far and wide. Perhaps he - or someone else familiar with the area - can tell us more about the location?
[edit on 5-2-2010 by Vanitas]

i invite you to my lecture about "myth untersberg"
on march 20th
in berchtesgaden
below untersberg



[edit on 9-2-2010 by white eagle]

First off, thanks f & s to the OP and many other posters for this great thread!

I haven't read all of it yet, but would like to share a link to a great book which is related to the subject at hand. The 1897 book is called "Etidorhpa" (no misspelling) or "The End of Earth" and is written by John Uri Lloyd. It tells the tale of Llewellyn Drury and a mysterious being referred to as I-am-the-Man. According to the author, the story is a true one and describes the voyage of Llewellyn, guided by I-am-the-Man, into the hollow earth. The entrance is a cave opening in a mountain in Kentucky.

Many scientific, philosophic and ethical questions about life under ground are explored in depth and very cleverly explained. Maybe reading it will shed more light on the folklores and tales about cave people.

(This book had me so fascinated that I recently bought a first edition including hand-written margin notes by the author. Cost me a month's salary and a week long argument with my wife, but well worth it.)

Link to the book for online reading:
Sacred Texts - Etidorhpa

[edit on 9/2/2010 by RationalDespair]

i invite you to my lecture about "myth untersberg"
on march 20th
in berchtesgaden
below untersberg

Oh, that's an interesting date...
Thank you for telling!

I wish I could go!
(But I know for certain I'll be "otherwise engaged". :-)

I hope somebody from this thread goes - and if so, don't forget to tell!
And the best of luck with the lecture, White Eagle.

reply to post by RationalDespair


Thank you, RationalDespair, that's very interesting.

It certainly looks like a book worth reading - especially because it's from the 19th century.
That was a time when such topics were not as commonplace and heavily commercialised as they are today, so it produced quite a few interesting works. (Think of Jules Verne and what's-his-name who wrote that intriguing little piece of fluff called Futility - and many others.)

Hey guys i've got some question if anyone can help me...

Are there regular teams of people going to explore the rest of this mountain.
Any information on how i could get involved in exploring this place ?

Anyone want to form a team of people willing to go until the end

Thecrow001

EDIT : I would like to start caving and mountaineering because you need experience if your going to do anything.

Any ideas on places or forums to help...


[edit on 20-2-2010 by thecrow001]

reply to post by thecrow001


I think the people living in the immediate area who are also posting in this thread could tell you more about that.

My own exploration was simply parking my car at various locations (the mountain is huge), getting out and just taking walks alongside the mountain. I also went for various tourist/sightseeing stuff.

I did not do the special stuff such as going into caves or climbing the mountain.

Lets see what the others say.

reply to post by Skyfloating


i see, i would very much like to go in the mountain and explore as much as possible giving myself a challenge....

I think theres plenty of places UK wise to get started and confident.

But my aim would be to get down the the bottom of untersberg mountain getting to those unexplored places.

reply to post by thecrow001


You`d have to learn about Caving then I guess. Actual descent should prove interesting.

Of Course, there are reports of people who have gone down there and never returned...

reply to post by Skyfloating


Yeah i'll have to get some courses and training down me, the reason of people not coming back only wants me to go even more, so many people have failed or gotten stuck ect.

Its a challenge i want without sounding rude.

Originally posted by white eagle
i invite you to my lecture about "myth untersberg"
on march 20th
in berchtesgaden
below untersberg

Im sure at least some readers of this thread will come to your lecture. Let us know how it went

reply to post by Aislin


Wow the German Occultist? I will look it up

Thanks

T

Originally posted by DraighNogrii
re-Hi guys, I've been away a while, and just caught up. A thought: do you think there is any merit to perusing "spinoff" tales (like Rip van-Winkle) for any simlilar corelations of stuff like "time-sleeping", dwarves, ect? Just wondering what the theme-linkages might turn up.

As mentioned earlier, there are Tibetan mountains with similar tales (dwarves, time-anomaly, missing people, subterranean dwellings).

Dwarves from underground certainly deserves its own research-piece because those critters show up all over the world.

Originally posted by BlueOrb
So, is the Hochthron near to the cave which we suspect may be known as the "eisernen Thuer"?

Just found out that the Hochthron (for English-speakers: High Throne, name of the Peak) is the location of the European Pseudolite Galileo.

Im making note of it here just in case it later turns out to mean something.

www.nytimes.com...

i dont have read the whole article, but the named chapell "wegmacherkapelle" is situated in the near of the nixloch.
the place of the chapell is interesting because of the "fuchsstein".
formerly it may has been a cult-place.
coming from berchtesgaden, the fuchsstein is the first place, where you can see the "teufelsloch".

Why do you link to a site full with trojan horses?