Very interesting indeed. This almost leaves me no choice than to round up some friends and make the 500 mile drive from where I live.

Can't wait to do some snooping around there!

I´d like to thank everyone for their words of encouragement and helpful links.

More to come.

Originally posted by saturnus1962
Some general info:

Untersberg FAQ - frequently asked questions

Where does the name Untersberg derive from? The oldest written document of the name Untersberg can be found in the records by archbishop Kondrad IV of Salzburg from June 28th, 1306 and is written as Vndarnsperch. The meaning of the name can be derived from "untern", which was the saying for an afternoon snack in this area. When the sun was above the mountain - viewed from the City of Salzburg - it was time for a rest and for a snack. Concerning an older opinion it is the "Berg der Unteren" - the mountain of the people carried away.

I dont think so.

"Unten" and "Untern" and "Unteren" mean "Below", "Beneath" and "Subterranean". So "Berg der Unteren" translates as "Mountain of the Subterraneans".

Originally posted by Skyfloating


I dont think so.

"Unten" and "Untern" and "Unteren" mean "Below", "Beneath" and "Subterranean". So "Berg der Unteren" translates as "Mountain of the Subterraneans".

I´m with you on this one. "Berg der Unteren" clearly means "mountain of the ones below". I dont´know how they can possibly translate this as "mountain of the people carried away".

Star and Flag from me without a doubt.

This is an amazing Post thank you SkyFloating.

This mystery is intriguing on many Different Levels and I want to thank the Op much, but also Ive got a new "obsession" now!

Wow plain Wow Spiritually, Mystery/UFO wise, Historically.

This one is the real deal guys, there is something up here, and all I will say on making such a bold statement is that I cant source that statement but promise you its so.

If anyone has seen my posts/threads I am a bit skeptical and don't make outlandish claims without sources. This one time I cant source it, trust me there is something to this, and this Mountain is important both in the ways shown by the OP and also on a non material spiritual level.

I "know" this for certain.

Wow just wow is all I can say!

Kind Regards,

Elf.

Originally posted by MischeviousElf

This one is the real deal guys, there is something up here, and all I will say on making such a bold statement is that I cant source that statement but promise you its so.

If anyone has seen my posts/threads I am a bit skeptical and don't make outlandish claims without sources. This one time I cant source it, trust me there is something to this, and this Mountain is important both in the ways shown by the OP and also on a non material spiritual level.

I "know" this for certain.

Wow just wow is all I can say!

Kind Regards,

Elf.

How did you come to this conclusion? Have you been up there? Have you felt something special there?

I´m curious, because I think I´ll go there anytime soon. It´s only a one hour drive from where I live.

This is another thread that I think may give an excellent TinWiki article, after the gathering all the information available.

Great thread, even if it's not directly related to Aliens & UFOs.

this is a very interesting story. i live in the regensburg area, so maybe when i get a few days with nothing to do ill go down to untersberg... i have a nikon EOS camera, and i have a couple friends that might wanna come with, if i find anything out ill let ya know.

continued from opening post and posts on page 4 and 6

Before I continue with reports of time-travel and dwarfs...

4. Personal Experiences Pt 1: Koenigssee

My profession (conducter of workshops for companies) led me to hold a 10 day workshop at the location of "Koenigssee", the lake which is about 15 miles south of the mountain. I booked myself in for an extended stay of 18 days. This was the first time I was there but I returned there privately a few years later.

One of those days, I took a guided tour of the whole WWII set-up since the place had been one of the main bastions of Hitlers Empire. Residing on top of mountains did make strategic sense as incoming troops and planes could more easily be spotted. The tour-guide showed us various nazi-bases and buildings, all quite grandiose and megalomaniac in architecture.

It is from the tour-guide that I learned that the entire area was full of bunkers and tunnelsystems, leading through mountains, under lakes, under towns, etc.

This is common knowledge among scholars and locals. What is less common knowledge is that, besides building new tunnels, Hitler made use of ALREADY EXISTING Tunnels in the area. At least according to my tour-guide and some locals I questioned. According to a few mystery-minded locals, tunnels were known to be here since hundreds of years.

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As far as I can tell its not possible to reach the chapel/church St. Bartholomae (talked about and shown in a previous post, alleged location of an undeground tunnel to the untersberg) by foot...unless you´re a mountain-climber. You have to take a boat or ferry there.

I did take a ferry there twice, on both visits. The ride takes about half an hour and on the way there the make a stop at a certian part of the lake they call the "Echo Rock". One of the ferry-guides takes out a trumpet, blows it, and the sound reverberates and echoes in the most awesome way in that you hear the echo about 10 seconds after the initial blow. Nothing mystical about this of course. But the guides then go on to tell legends and tales of the area in an attempt to entertain the guests.

What I learned when arriving at the chapel is that the area contains some of the strongest magnetic anomalies found on the continent. And indeed, in walking around there (specifically: a 500 foot walk from the chapel) I experienced a dizziness and nausea like never before in nature. Leaving the area, the dizziness faded away. Returning back to it, the dizziness returned. Anyone who wants to can try it out themselves. The tour-guides and locals know exactly where that spot of land is.

Upon my second visit to the chapel I decided not to return to the ferry with the rest of the tourists but to stay in the area and walk around it. I walked to the end of one side of it, thinking I might be able to walk back to the place I started off at with the ferry, but couldnt, for two reasons: First of all, the path ended and was replaced by a rough mountain cliff. Second of all, to my left side, there was barbed wire and a sign of the german military reading "No Trespassing". Just why there was a barbed wire in military-caution on this otherwise lovely half-isle is still a mystery to me. If you ever go there yourself, walk all the way down to the end of the half-island and see for yourself.

The Area on Google Earth:




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Originally posted by ArMaP
even if it's not directly related to Aliens & UFOs.

It is, a little bit. The "dwarfs" from the mountain look just like the greys of ufology. And they also cause "missing time".

There´s a theory that what we today call "greys" were called other things in mideaval times. The theory says that theyve "been with us since a very long time", appearing in different guises.

really enjoyed this read, thank you. I like to know a bit about hitler, he seems to be very interested in the acient world and magic. I think after people discrimnated him aganist his art form he totally wanted to look in to mystical t hings and get connections to maintain a higher degree of knowelege which could one day help man kind.

Originally posted by Skyfloating

Originally posted by ArMaP
even if it's not directly related to Aliens & UFOs.

It is, a little bit. The "dwarfs" from the mountain look just like the greys of ufology. And they also cause "missing time".

There´s a theory that what we today call "greys" were called other things in mideaval times. The theory says that theyve "been with us since a very long time", appearing in different guises.

I've meticulously gone through and starred each of your posts on this subject. I think you've started a new obsession for me. I was planning on going to Amsterdam this year to treat myself to a birthday trip... but I may have to change my destination now. Is it actually possible to get tours THROUGH the tunnels/mountain? or are those areas the ones blocked off by the German military? I would love to be able to venture into those mountains/caves/tunnels!!

Such a quality thread here. I'm 1000% interested.

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Good thread. An enjoyable read and interesting subject.

Starred and Flagged.

I do however, have a thought tumbling around. Looking at the housing and villages / towns near by on google earth, there sure seems to be a fairly large population living on and around the mountain. If so many of these things - things of extreme importance should they be true, have happened in such detail as the story's above have been described. Then why is it that all of these people in the surrounding villages do not / haven't experienced all of these strange things occurring around them? I'd have thought this news would be everywhere and have been proven given Hitler studying it, and I would have to imagine large amounts of expeditions ect to the mountain.

Why isn't everyone transported to miles away locations around the globe? And why, given the seemly huge amount of information bolstering this theory / myth be provable and explainable.

I'm not bashing this at all, as said above it's an excellent thread and really enjoyable, however I wish to have these thoughts removed by someone with more knowledge perhaps able to explain to me why these thoughts are wrong.

Cheers.

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