this story sort of reminded me of that X-files episode where Mulder and Scully go to that mountain to look for ufos. I think it was named "Field trip"

Originally posted by Vehemens
My take on it:
I think these energy or electro magnetic fields mess with the pineal gland somehow. The pineal gland (3rd eye) releases DMT, a psychedelic substance responsible for making us dream. Many people who take DMT see the infamous grey aliens and describe what seems like an abduction experience. Furthermore while on DMT time seems to stop. A minute looks like a lifetime but when the journey ends most people don't remember a single thing or forget everything minutes later.
Now, two of my uncles had some hallucinogenic experiences because of depressions. One was missing for 2 weeks. I'll tell you, it's scary, in his mind my father had died and my mother was talking to him by telepathy for the entire 2 weeks. Imagine his face when he saw my father alive in front of him and my mother telling him she doesn't even believe in telepathy crap. lol he couldn't believe it. he was so sure. The other one talked to an UFO who said to meet him in Azores islands. Needless to say there was no UFO there... and both my uncles are over 40 and don't even believe in these things.
All these experiences are related to DMT and brain malfunctioning.

So, my take on "the mystery mountain" is that there is some kind of earth electromagnetic field that totally disrupts our brain neurotransmitters (remember, our brain is electrical). Probably some explorers trip so bad that they slip and die inside the caves. Others just leave and go wondering about God knows where until the brain short circuits again and they return to normal. They wont remember the lost time because that is the primary side effect of a heavy DMT experience.

I truly find this normal because I also had my share of Psychedelic Trance parties and I'm used to being around trippy hippies. I believe I saw everything already =)

Anyway, research a bit the pineal gland and DMT.

Excellent post. There very well could be a connection between Electro Magnetic Fields and the pineal Gland. Which could explain the reason they are building the LHC

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8. More on the 1987 Time-Jump to Alexandria

Note: If some German ATS-member can help me find the original newspaper stories that were printed in pre-internet times, that would be great

As mentioned in the opening post there was an alleged time-jump of a one man and two women who dissappeared at the Untersberg and reappeared 3 months later near Alexandria. These stories appeared in normal newspapers as follows:

* In August of 1987 the newspapers carried a story of these three cave-explorers dissappearing. No mention of time-portals or paranormal phenomena. Newspaper headlines were in the lines of "Cave-Explorers Dissappeared - assumed dead after cave accident"

(These reports directly contradict later attempted "debunks" by pseudoskeptics, claiming that these people never dissappeared in the first place).

* In November of 1987 (3 months later), normal newspapers carried another story: The "missing people" had reappeared in Alexandria. These reports mentioned possibilities of mysterious phenomena, time-jumps and time-portals and reported amnesia by the group of three. According to some of these reports, they did not know how they got there.

* After returning to their home-city (Munich, about 130 miles from Untersberg) they suddenly changed their story, telling reporters that they hadnt time-travelled but that they had just left their white car standing at the parking place in Furstenbrunn (a village beside Untersberg) and then took a train to Salzburg (Austria) and from there to Villach (Austria) in order to go mountain hiking. The married couple and their friend then explained that they had "mistakingly" passed the austria-yugoslavia border (the third woman had supposedly left her passport in the car at untersberg). Afraid of yugoslavian authorities they decided not to return, but to continue their journey to the Red Sea and the Indian Ocean.

The most obvious indicator that this story is a lie is that it is virtually impossible to "accidentally" cross the border to yugoslavia. Fact is that the train from Salzburg to Villach doesnt even come close to the Yugoslavian border by hundreds of miles. And even if it had, there were at that time (1987) strict border controls before passing into the country. And how likely is it that someone would travel to the Red Sea (Israel, Egypt) without a passport?

The search team who had been looking for them in 1987 did find a checkered blouse near a place they had been. It is common for cave-explorers to leave a piece of clothing outside the cave, should they go missing.

However, this place was not a visible cave entrance but, according to legend, a cave-entrance that only opens on a certain public holidy (Himmelfahrt - Christs Ascension Day) - the 15th of August. The very day the group was at the Untersberg!

Unfortunately the group denied the blouse belonging to them. And conviniently, some other tourist called in at the newspapers, claiming it to be her blouse....albeit 3 months later.

Newspaper-sources omit the names of the group for their protection (since they deny everything and want to be left alone), however...old newspaper archives (1987) should still carry them.

So, we are supposed to believe that they "accidentally" travelled through half a dozen countries without a passport for 3 months.

It seems quite possible that they are either a) Keeping it secret for their own reasons or b) were forced to invent a cover-story.

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Originally posted by Lebowski achiever
What I also find interesting is how widespread the theme of humans being fooled by elves/dwarfs etc to eat their food is. Of course once they do timeslips occur. Irish Fairy lore also warns to never accept food from fairies as you may go missing for a hundred years.

Not to mention dwarf-tales always being connected to humans falling into some kind of long 100 to 200 year comatose sleep...

Anybody remember what happened in Snow White and the seven Dwarfs (I forget)?

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Originally posted by NathanNewZealand
Hamelyn, it's in Germany. The Piper lead the children into a mountain. Vanishing forever. You've all heard it. It's not a made up story like The Lion King, look it up. It happened.

Very, very interesting addition. I've looked into the tale in depth (researching a concept album I recorded which was a take on the traditional Pied Piper story - incidentally putting a Shamanic/Spiritworld twist onto the legend). I became convinced that it must have some root in fact (as I believe all myths do).

There is a school of thought whereby:
Dwarves = Faeries = Elves = Gnomes = Greys etc

I.E. they are all the same beings viewed through different cultural eyes. Dwarves, Faeries, Elves and Gnomes are all of Northern and Western European culture but the rest of the world has their own names and legends for beings of a similar description. I believe Hitler was fascinated with these beings simply because they are an integral part of Germanic folklore and culture - and Germanic culture was of course what Hitler loved most.

What an enthraling thread, I love this type of subject.

It's taken a while to catch up on this, but thanks Sky for this information! =)

Sky,
As you may know, Egypt can be a heck of a place to get into, if your ‘documentation’ is not up to scratch.
(I spent two days in ‘quarantine’ because my ‘jabs’ weren’t up-to-date!
my yellow fever inoculation was a day short of its pass by date!! pfft!)

I’m guessing that when they docked – without the correct documentation that they would have been put in the ‘system’ until an embassy official dropped by.

There is more to this case than meets the eye! i.e. reference their appearance on the boat and subsequent transfer to their embassy.

Telling an Egyptian official that you went down a hole in Germany and suddenly – poof! – you appeared on a boat bound for Alexandria is not going to cut it.

They must have had a very convincing story, (perhaps proof!) that the Egyptian authorities believed in, for them to contact their embassy/consulate and subsequently return home.

H

Originally posted by Skyfloating
reply to

Alright. But then, if border controls were so lax, why were they afraid to go back?

Indeed, my take is that someone or something got to them and made them change there story, the question is though.......Who?



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Logic can also dictate that since these alleged being are able to manipulate peoples thoughts and decisions, than these missing folks may have been also traveling with these beings as well, if not possessed by them. It would be my suspicion that many such visiting species go out on some type of holiday adventure from their alleged bases and underground homes. It may have even been as if some assignment as well.

We currently hear similar stories of BEK or black eyed kids and aliens also trying to blend in with our society. This has been suggested in some Star Trek episodes, so, it shouldn't be hard to guess that this was similar.

Yeah, some of us watch science fiction, so, that can also mean that these visitors watch them as well.

We already have heard the stories of the watchers and the fallen etc. So, it shouldn't take much imagination to put these pieces together to form a collective theory.....even if that's all it is for now.