Originally posted by Horza
My wife had our first child 3 weeks ago ... little boy ... nice and healthy ...
Do we vaccinate??
That is the big question.
So I jumped online ... I have spent about 10 hours so far looking for arguments for and against.
Plenty of arguments for vaccination ... everywhere you look ...
The arguments against?? ... besides a few blogs and posts in forums which I would never use as a basis for a decision that will effect my child ...
apart from these opinions, I could find NOTHING in the way of well presented, well backed up arguments against vaccination.
... And there must be some, surely!
Does any of you know a link to arguments against vaccination that are considered to be legitimate?
Well, you're never going to get anyone who spent 7-8 years "educating" himself to jeopardize his entire career because his peers get pissed of and
label him as a hack to the world.
So I think you'll have a hard time finding anything "legit".
They are not trying to kill us... just keep us sick or going ill. The more the merrier. Like previously said, it's appalling how many doctors sell
out by endorsing different types of medicine. Now if doctors aren't doing this for money but for the "sake of man" then what about the times where
the product turned out to be dangerous for the people using it, or entirely useless.... you guys know what you're doing or saying right... you really
really know what you're saying?
Theoretically... would any of you doctors frequenting this sight like to see the world entirely sickness free without the need for people to buy any
form of products to stay that way?
Fortunately I haven't had a doctor yet that suggested me that I should get some kind of prescription to anything other than relaxation or drink some
water or drink some tea or what ever, you know what I mean. Now that's a doctor I can trust...
Let me give you an example from my own life to top it off.
Some years ago I got struck with a depression. Big deal, a lot of people get that at some point. At first my doc wouldn't give me anything and it
wasn't till I had spent some time at the psychologist (not psychiatrist.... yuk!) that I was given Cipramil.
Well, the sessions helped out of-course and apparently the medicine too. Or so I thought.
A half year or so ago it came out that Cipramil is a crap product... it doesn't work, in fact it could make matters worse for bad case depressions
because the patient would continue the downward spiral.
Now how is that supposed to make me feel as a "client" of the pharmaceutical industry and the world of doctors? To be honest, I lose faith and I
start losing respect for 7-8 years of "study". Why? Because a case like this show that you know as little as us or in fact are buyable in one way or
another by those companies. It doesn't matter if it's words or money that gets to you, you are doing harm to people.
And don't even go "Well, you were just unlucky with the choice of therapist...". This wasn't a one-case scenario!
Another thing that is always played down is the problem that medicine is so confident in itself that it overlooks the possibility that all the cures
and vaccines that you create for our "benefit" is causing an evolution in the very bacteria that you claim to be combating.
Last but not least, I find it funny how old civilizations managed to maintain themselves through natures medicine but this is looked ill upon today.
It's possible to maintain a healthy body simply by treating it right in the sense of not filling it with waste food like deep fried stuff, sugar or
by not getting enough of something.
We see cases where medicine assumes control and treatment of a person who was trying to find another more natural way of dealing with their illness
and the people who try to support the person in need gets dragged into court. Another fine example of how medicine wants to control us.... it doesn't
want to see people getting cure or improve their situation through things that could be grown in your own backyard or in the neighboring country. How
would they earn they overpaid salaries?
Like I said previously... I've never been vaccinated, never will be! And I've never spent 1 day in a hospital *knock on wood*
Fortunately I live in a country where I don't have to worry about healthcare... it's free no matter what happens. But I feel for the poor people
elsewhere in the world who end up almost losing their home because of outrageous hospital prices that rule in a outrageous system.