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Is the Internet About to be Censored ??

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posted on Aug, 25 2008 @ 06:36 AM
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Did he just say great sites like Fox News? LOL. Get out of here. You want to silence the sheep.




posted on Aug, 25 2008 @ 06:40 AM
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If the internet gets censored, I am gonna march to the whitehouse and shove my foot up the ass of whoevers the president in a few months. Thats bullcrap.
We need SOME freedoms!!!

-Z-



posted on Aug, 25 2008 @ 07:17 AM
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posted on Aug, 25 2008 @ 07:28 AM
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This is a video I made a few months back its a preditcion I made without even looking too much into it. See what you think, its about why the Internet could get censored.




posted on Aug, 25 2008 @ 09:15 AM
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Sites like ATS could be history.



posted on Aug, 25 2008 @ 09:19 AM
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Could someone make a condensed version of what the video shows?

I don't want to see some guy shouting in my face for 5 minutes just to come to the conclusion that capitalism is interested in making money from the Internet.

And about paying by Gigabyte downloaded, here in Portugal we started that way, almost all ISPs had a download limit and slow speeds, but now are changing to a no limits, higher speed access, so maybe you just have to change country.


[edit on 25/8/2008 by ArMaP]



posted on Aug, 25 2008 @ 09:26 AM
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I think myself as well as some others out there would literally snap and go postal. The ability to go on google and search for any answer to any question you ever wanted is such a valuable asset to our lives. It's what helps us to be further educated. If they censor the internet we'll be drones forever... brainwashed... not good...



posted on Aug, 25 2008 @ 09:35 AM
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The internet is already censored.

Even this site censors it's members.

Do you believe that some censorship is neccesary?

If so, and I think maybe it is, then where do you draw the line?

Also, how can you judge the next generation of internet when you haven't even seen it?

If you want to know what the next generation of the internet will look like in years to come, is Alex Jones really the man to ask?

If the next generation removes snake oil ads and the like from sites like InfoWars, Prison Planet and Rense et al then I will definately be cheering it in



posted on Aug, 25 2008 @ 12:19 PM
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Originally posted by L.HAMILTON
Are we about to loose the internet as we know it ? The government wants to severly restrict our ability to aquire factual information from independent news sources and forums . Turrning the internet into nothing but a glorified filtered TV system...www.youtube.com...


Having had a large number of dealings with the nsa and other agencies over the years about this issue I will post some of what I know about it and the problems the internet is running into.

Bill gates when he created windows and sold it to the U.S. Gov they replaced almost all of the computers with windows accept for a few systems. In 1998 the NSA ran into what people now know as the 2000 Y2k crisis the nsa was actually down for 3 or 4 days I forget off the top of my head.

Anyway windows is a failed system windows XP is really windows 3.1 upgraded to look better and Xp and all of the windows sense 3.1 have been either shell versions or versions without a working version of DOS.

Dos being Direct Operating System. Even with the nsa's 3 miles of computers in fort meed all of that software and hardware still crashed due to faulty programming. Bill clinton when he was still in office he decided to higher overseas company's mainly in india to fix the Y2k crisis before it was surpose to have occured.

Come to find out our loving mr. clinton and associates helped to undermine the nsa and other agecies in the united states when india and chinese companies came into the united states our software was given a back door so all our secrets and other technologies could be laundered outside with the back door's built into window's operating systems.

Many people that complained about this issue in the nsa and other agencies were let go or fired because of there knowledge of this and other event's related to it.

The internet was built on these kinds of failed principles and it doesnt help that fortune 500 companies and overseas interest's have been buying up company's that are the backbone to the internet. I know the problems facing the nsa's department of agriculture and I dont know if even I could fix what the agency has done trying to improve crop yeld using super computer forcast's super crops have there problem's.

Back in 2002 the biggest If I remember right was a tera flop 3 to 6 trillion calculations per second im not sure what it is now but spending all your money on the next big fix doesnt fix the problems you already had and thats what need's to have changed along time ago in the nsa.

Same thing for the internet even with the ablity to process that amount of calculations you still have to have a server capiable of handing that amount of information without melting the chip or causing the wires or transfure methods to overheat and explode.

Washington and the FBI might want to regulate the internet along with other groups of people and many people might want to censor it but there problem is most of them simply lack the ablity to comprehend what it takes to run a country let alone keep a country fed and safe every day.

Just taking law enforcement lets say the FBI has 250,000 people working for it they still have to investigate 280 million people that's 1 million people per person and to program a computer or make a computer program that can keep track of 100,000 people is one thing to make a computer program that can track and monitor 280 million is another thing all togther.

It also doesnt help the agecies that have the people that can make these kinds of things to fire people that either know too much or get rid of them for political reasons.

I know the man down in austrailia that gave up trying to make artifical intelligence several years ago he was light years ahead of anything thats currently been developed or attempted to be made and he gave up trying to program artifical intelligence he estimated it would be 100 years of more scientific advancements before it would be remotly possible to program such a thing.

By then you could in theroy make a computer to monitor and keep track of perhaps 6 billion people a day maybe even a second and possibly store and house the information but how long would it stay for?

Every single kind of information storage devices break down that have been devopled so far and the internet is no acception to that rule. If there is going to be a new internet I would like to see apple computer company develop it and not bill gates.

Bill gates is already under investigation for espionage same as rupert murdoc for conspiring to undermine the u.s. dollar and other things I cant discuss here but I do know bill gates is being gone after by the doj and nsa for putting out faulty software and faulty hardware.

The nsa privetly employes about 3 million people even 3 million people armed with the most advanced technologies couldnt stop 9-11 and couldnt stop or a better way to put it wouldnt stop also the pentagon attack from occuring.

When I get more time I will start a discussion on what nano technology is going to be attempted to be used for because it partly ties into this discussion but this is more then enough 2 cents for now.

Falcon




posted on Aug, 25 2008 @ 12:26 PM
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posted on Aug, 25 2008 @ 12:30 PM
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You may have had some or even many dealings with the NSA and other agencies, but apparently you do not know much about computer systems and related subjects.



posted on Aug, 25 2008 @ 12:40 PM
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Originally posted by ArMaP
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You may have had some or even many dealings with the NSA and other agencies, but apparently you do not know much about computer systems and related subjects.


I think I know what you mean ArMaP.

It has been a while since I last used Don't Obey System (DOS) but I thought it was a pre-cursor to the Doors(TM) Operating System and not Windows!



posted on Aug, 25 2008 @ 01:15 PM
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DOS was a language introduced in the 70s as Pro-DOS on the early apple computers

Novell DOS on early networked systems
PT-DOS, OPEN-DOS, FreeDOS, 4DOS, and others sprung from it

Gates basically took that and turned it into MS-DOS

it stands for Disk Operating System and was designed on the format of pulling and storing information on a removable storage device. In those days it was the new disk drives that replaced tape drives

computer industry was just beginning to bloom back then with the first computers showing up in homes.

We geeks were really the only ones who made enough of a use for it with our computer gaming fetish which was alive and well even in homes back then. (early to late 80s)

I remember windows 3.11 and 95 as they were released, and the implications they carried. The internet's release and implementation was an inevitability and its potential to change the world was recognized back then.

Sometimes I ponder the idea that if these alarmist are correct, and we already are under a control we cant see, then perhaps the freedom we were allowed to have via the net, that maybe this has been just a huge monitoring system to see who will go on what list for when the crap hits the fan, they already know who's door to go knock on when rounding up "dissidents" because we have all been feeding our viewing habits and interests into AI computer generated dossiers

I dunno, I dunno

But the dates on these plans seems to match other dates as far as a cohesive plan, such as codex alimentarius. It seems that if this NWO plans to hit on more fronts than just the net neutrality front, like economic turmoil so bad then there will be a "bump" in our lives in which we have no electricity, food, water, and all the life altering changes that can happen simultaneously during a temp crash in normal life

that makes sense that this NEW internet package would be all that is left as far as a replacement package without having to "strip" the old system from your outstretched hands which would cause more dissent

all speculation on already existing alarmist theories on how the USA will be "downsized" to an easier to control people.

Regardless, the source of these laws either being from the cooperate world, or the gov itself, it can be said they are one in the same (FISA). Perhaps the gov is behind and this is an exercise in mitigation or they are not and they are finished collecting their data and are about to begin a new level of control.

Just tossing out ideas here

peace



posted on Aug, 25 2008 @ 01:51 PM
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>> Is the Internet About to be Censored ??


I'd say.. no and the proof is in the multitude of retarded posts this website gets every day, this one and digg, reddit, huff, NTY, WT, O'Reilly, KO.. the list goes on and on..

whatever your depravity (mine included), political affiliation or conspiracy flavor of the month, you can find it on the net.

no one is censoring you people, much of the cited content that is claimed to be "censored" is protected property.

One example: From the Brainiac previously posting the example of NBC content. NBC Olympic content is "for one country" only because NBC isn't going to give it away "free".. that aint censorship people, that's business.


Cutting back bittorent file sharing isn't censorship (it's stupid.. yes) but it isn't censorship. Taking off copyrighted materials and suing people is not censorship (it's stupid.. yes) but it isn't censorship.

There are some examples of censorship.. there always will be, and they are usually dealt with quickly and embarrass the party attempting that bull#, but I have YET to see one single post on this site that has been 'Taken down", where is the Alien landing video that was "taken down" from YouTube, the images cofiscated?

DAILY I see posts on ATSwhere people say "hurry up and back that up" or "it'll be gone tommorow", and comments like this and yet NEVER has anything (that wasn't copyrighted) been removed from ATS or an affiliated site that was hosting something.


You know where the censorship is? It from the people who want to take away my right to say the offensive term of the week.. like "retarded", it's not the government, its the activist ahole next to you.




Of course, I could be wrong... :>



posted on Aug, 25 2008 @ 02:12 PM
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Do you know how stupid you just made yourself sound?
You need to re-edit your post cause you said a something like a this:


but I have YET to see one single post on this site that has been 'Taken down", where is the Alien landing video that was "taken down" from YouTube, the images cofiscated?


Ok, so if something's been taken down THEN YOU'RE NOT GOING TO SEE IT!

Seriously dude, I've seen videos that were on here for maybe a day and then they disappear without me being able to see it, usually something monumental.

Also BitTorrent stuff is sharing, just like WAREZ (which is still alive and kickin'), it's not illegal, to say it's illegal would be like saying that I can't let you listen to my CD or let you play my video game on my console.

-Jimmy



posted on Aug, 25 2008 @ 03:22 PM
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Originally posted by jimmyjackblack
reply to post by gormly
 


Do you know how stupid you just made yourself sound?
You need to re-edit your post cause you said a something like a this:


but I have YET to see one single post on this site that has been 'Taken down", where is the Alien landing video that was "taken down" from YouTube, the images cofiscated?


Ok, so if something's been taken down THEN YOU'RE NOT GOING TO SEE IT!

Seriously dude, I've seen videos that were on here for maybe a day and then they disappear without me being able to see it, usually something monumental.

Also BitTorrent stuff is sharing, just like WAREZ (which is still alive and kickin'), it's not illegal, to say it's illegal would be like saying that I can't let you listen to my CD or let you play my video game on my console.

-Jimmy


You're not sharing it though are you? You're basically taking it away for free to keep on your machine. You can't plead innocence when you know damn well downloading films, music and games without paying, is stealing from the author.

[edit on 25-8-2008 by Hardee]



posted on Aug, 25 2008 @ 03:28 PM
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The people who use these service like youtube etc. are obviously flushing their rights straight down the toilet.



posted on Aug, 25 2008 @ 03:57 PM
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posted on Aug, 25 2008 @ 05:13 PM
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My threads are obviously censored because they receive no replies.



posted on Aug, 25 2008 @ 05:45 PM
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The internet is already censored. By how a search yields results to the watering down of legitimate discussion and posts on ATS itself. Some searches yield few results and you can bet that all people searching for those radical ideas or taboo thoughts are tracked. Also if you frequent the ATS threads you will see the same few people debunking or dis-informing the threads over and over again. I come to almost ignore the posts they make because I believe they have an agenda to disrupt those threads. I forget who but some great thinker once said “each mans religion is in his own heart” and I believe he meant was “what each man believes in is his own heart” . We may not be able to stop the censorship of any of the info we receive in fact the info we do receive may be carefully selected for us. But we do have a choice as to how we dissimulate the info in to our thoughts. And although I am not a big fan of Buda I believe he is credited with this quote … “ The truth is harder to hide than the moon and the sun” peace and keep your mindset your own.



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