reply to post by StellarX
Like the Vietnamese and Koreans were? You either don't know your history, or you made the mistake of comparing apples to oranges.
North Korea, after a spectacular advance got their asses kicked right back up north, right to the Korean/Chinese border. It was a massive Chinese
attack that caused the whole thing to end up more or less along the original borders. That had nothing to do with Russia, other than Russian pilots
and equipment.
Our pilots were fighting North Koreans and Russian pilots flying their own best stuff, and we kicked their asses too. They were good, but not good
enough.
The war in Viet Nam until after the Tet of 1968 was a guerilla war of Viet Cong in the South. It wasn't until 1972 that North Vietnames regulars
entered the fray, and they in turn were shredded/destroyed.
The Russians have never done all that well against anyone but Nazi Germany who was fighting a war on three sides, outnumbered significantly. And the
Germans still managed to eat up millions of Russians. Russians, when defending their homeland are tough, but they never do well when required to
attack across their borders.
Back to Israel. Masses of top Russian equipment, provided by Russian advisor, using Russian tactics, and in overwhelming numbers, were defeated by the
much smaller Israeli forces not only in 1967, but again in 1973. I just call it as I see it. Against overwhelming masses of Russian equipment,
advisors, and tactics, Israel is 2-0.
In Afghanistan, is was masses of Russian equipment, manned by Russian soldiers, commanded by Russian generals, using Russian tactics. Then only
American equipment of significance was the Stingers. Russia got their asses kicked out of there too.
To go against Israel, Russia would have to telegraph their intention, and due to geography, take an anticipated line of approach. That would be their
destruction. The Israeli's have an uncanny ability to have assets in place at the highest levels in every enemy and potential enemy government. Why
should Russia be so different, with such a large Jewish population, full of smart, determined Jews?
I'll say it again. The numbers and pure logic would indicate a Russian slaughter. But history and intuition indicates an Israeli slaughter. I'd
go with Israel.
Israel would only have to hold the pass for two to three days before the US and other forces would reinforce. And traditionally, historically,
intuitively, their equipment doesn't match up, their tactics are easily anticipated, and their skill levels while very high do not match up through
the ranks. Certainly not motivation.