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A blurred / blacked out area in Chukotka


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reply posted on 9-9-2008 @ 02:13 PM by Ace420


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reply posted on 9-9-2008 @ 02:13 PM by Ace420


I'm still new to forums, so it'll take me a while to figure out how to post the images I have. Here is a link www.flashearth.com... to the close up image of what I am talking about. Zoom in slowly and if the image doesn't work right away zoom out and back in again. This is the area blurred on the google image and actually looks like what you would expect the land to look like. See the white plume? Below that are the 6 figures I was talking about... My guess is those aren't lakes. And to the left a little I can make out what I believe to be a brownish-red silo type building, judging by the shadow it's casting to the west. It's low resolution for a reason. Something was going on at the time of this shot.
Anyone else see what I'm seeing?

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reply posted on 9-9-2008 @ 02:15 PM by Ace420


www.flashearth.com...

You shouldn't have to adjust this one.
Look for the white plume slightly north of the center and the blue figures to the south. The blue figures are in an almost diamond shape set fairly far apart. But they look identical to eachother. I have no idea what they are.
Note: You are going to have to zoom in close to see anything... These are low resoultion but you can see that something is odd.

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reply posted on 9-9-2008 @ 02:19 PM by Ace420


Originally posted by veles77
Ace, could you please provide links to the images you're talking about? 'Cause I don't see any blue spots there or missiles however hard I try.
I saw some uncensored images of this area on one of the map sites, and they had 2 dark spots on the same place where the black rectangle is on yahoo maps. The pictures were taken in winter, and the rest of the area is snow-white for hundreds of km. Unfortunately I lost the links to the site.



These may have been taken in winter... but look at the snow on surrounding peaks. The white above the area in question really doesn't look like snow to me. It looks like high rising drifting smoke, maybe steam.
I'm no expert, just a careful observer.



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reply posted on 10-9-2008 @ 12:27 PM by Ace420


Last post by me for a while, I swear. The Russian Satellite site blocks out the entire far east... it seems like the maps.live.com and the flash sites both show this area at the same time the google picture was taken, they just rely on low resolution rather than blurring. The thing I think is a missle is what I really want everyone to put their two cents in on. This thing is huge, whatever it is, and it appears to be rising off the ground with a plume of smoke behind it. This is in the blurred area on the google map. This is the final link to look at the missle plume www.flashearth.com... and it is an extreme close up. Like I mentioned before if the image doesn't show up right away, zoom out and back in again. You will have to zoom out to get your bearings for the area anyway.

Anybody? What is this thing?


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reply posted on 13-9-2008 @ 01:56 AM by Ace420


Not sure if any of you took a look at the closeup image I put in the last couple posts, but I've been doing a lot of reading and research on Chukotka and have a few possible ideas of what the blurred image actually is. Without any solid evidence or at least a higher resolution photo there isn't any certainty, but here's what I've got.

Chukotka was a major military area during the cold war, as many of you reading this already know. According to some internet sources there are still abandoned areas with rusting military equipment outside.

Possibilites: All which could warrant a blur.

*Space Program? It might explain the plume of white I took to be a missile and the large man made structures that can be seen to the south of it.
*Abandoned Military Area? This region is supposedly full of things like this, so it very well could be a larger yard, or might be a yard with some of the larger abandoned pieces of equipment.
*Military Testing Area? Would certainly explain the object I think is a missle/rocket. Not too far fetched.
*ICBM Site? This was the wikipedia answer, and I've seen it in this forum already. Logical, and could explain the structures.
*Chernobyl Survivor Monitoring Center? Just seeing if you're paying attention. Hey, in this world, who knows?

The above (minus the chernobyl joke) are what I could think of. If anyone else has possible ideas of merit, I'd really like to hear what you have to say.



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reply posted on 13-9-2008 @ 03:47 AM by Ace420


Well, I was wrong about the flashearth image not being modified... I now have Irrefutable evidence of some duplicate images being placed as was mentioned earlier. Though you can still see some of what is going on, the real mystery is what is underneath the pasted mountain. I've tried every different satellite I can think of and searched everywhere for still pictures but to no avail. NASA's Worldwind program even made it seem like there was a glitch when I tried zooming in on the area and gave me the worst image I've seen so far, and then it lost it's connection to the server and crashed about 5 minutes later. I've tried everything I know from our sats to theirs, and I'm afraid I might have to pass this mystery on to someone who has better connections. Though I'll still be checking the forum pretty often to see what everyone comes up with.

The burning question is... If they hadn't blurred it, would it have still drawn this much attention?



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reply posted on 13-9-2008 @ 04:54 AM by dragonridr


After taking a different approach all i can find is mention of old milatiry bases the soviets used for monitoring. heres what i mean see below



iPresident Dmitri A. Medvedev signed a decree accepting the resignation. Mr. Medvedev’s predecessor, Vladimir V. Putin, persuaded Mr. Abramovich to stay on when he first submitted his resignation in 2006.

Since becoming governor in 2001, Mr. Abramovich has used some of his vast wealth to revive Chukotka, which was left to rot after the Soviet collapse and the subsequent departure of military installations.



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reply posted on 2-10-2008 @ 12:22 PM by Anonymous ATS


hello the base is near Anadyr its was called during the cold war moscow -2 or moskva-2 (soviet name) there's also an other code named given by the soviets ,it's an Intercontinental ballistic missile base



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reply posted on 3-10-2008 @ 07:34 AM by James Random


Originally posted by snoopyuk
reply to post by azzllin



if you use the the link i posted and use the microsoft virtual earth feature and click out you can see it, i will take a screenshot 2nite.
thans
snoopyuk


ok here is a screenshot it shows the blurred area in one map service and next to it is the area unblurred using MVE. it still has some haze/smoke over the area.



img402.imageshack.us...

hope it works
snoopyuk

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Yes, I investigated that too. It looks like extra snow which has been placed there using the clone tool in photoshop. Cloning out objects from images is superbly simple to do.

Here is the area in large:

maps.ask.com...~


seems awfully close to the Alaskan border, does it not?


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reply posted on 20-10-2008 @ 03:55 PM by FASTER345


Nothing new in months on this place? Hmmm... bump!



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reply posted on 22-10-2008 @ 09:50 PM by Ace420


Nope. Nothing yet, but Ace is still on the case. I won't rest until I figure out what the heck is going on here.
Every single Satellite site, American or otherwise either blacks it out, blurs it, or shows an extremely fake copy pasted image over the area. Just slightly to the south east you can see where the image was copied from... not very creative. Nasa Worldwind locks up when you try to zoom in on this area and loses it's connection to the server, and there aren't any good pictures from the area at ground level or otherwise. By looking up the longitude and lat. I was able to find a couple personal webpages where people had gone within 100 miles of the area in question, but no one makes any mention of traveling east of Evingkot (or however that nearby city is spelled). The only way we'll ever know is if someone with the proper clearance decides to share it with us, but judging by the difficulty I've had researching this place I doubt that will happen any time soon.
Like I said before... I think a trip to the area would cost about 1,500 USD but the odds you'd be able to get somewhere that remote without roads is pretty slim... on top of that, I'm sure the russian government wouldn't be too thrilled about you trekking in an area this important.

I don't do well with unsloved mysteries.... especially when someone knows the answer. I implore whoever has the connections or the knowledge to put this enigma to rest.



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