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Polymer capacitor Energy Storage

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posted on Aug, 22 2008 @ 07:08 PM
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I posted this article in the news section I thought it was so important, but it drew nary a response.


Wang and his research team report today (Aug. 20) at the 236th national American Chemical Society meeting in Philadelphia in two papers, on the development of power density tunable polymers and polymer ceramic nanocomposites as electric storage materials for capacitors. Currently, power conditioning is carried out by capacitors, but Wang believes that eventually properly tuned polymer capacitors could replace batteries.


Basically it sounds very like what Eestor have been working on. I have been a bit suspicious of Eestor's claims and lack of factual back up on top of delays. This is the first scientific paper I have seen which is eerily close to Estor's patents and addresses the issues of permitivity and dielectric saturation that was the sticking point for many skeptics of Eestor.

I think this is going to be very important if they can reach these claims. It will change energy storage and collection in the world forever.



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posted on Aug, 22 2008 @ 07:37 PM
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do you have more details on his claim? like how many W / kg coan be stored? I cannot recal who made a similar claim just 3-4 months ago..



posted on Aug, 22 2008 @ 07:46 PM
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Can't say if you're trolling or coming in with some mega whaaaaa. Sometimes I wonder if science is our own worst enemy in this whole enviro thing. It seems to stop us from investing in one technology because another one may become available soon. If I had a wish, it would be that the next twenty years of technology came tomorrow, and we could just get on with implementing it.



posted on Aug, 22 2008 @ 08:06 PM
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Whatever redled, if you think it's trolling just don't read. Personally I wish we could get a thousand years of technology tomorrow, but apparently you actually have to do the work to get the results.

At this stage I can't find a W/kg but I found 17j / cc which was acheived in early testing with a projected of 60j / cc. Apparently this falls short of EEstor's claims so I'll watch this field with bated breath to see what they can crack. I this paper they projected 30j / cc or 16.7j /gram and an achieved of up to 25j / cc.



posted on Aug, 22 2008 @ 08:26 PM
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The virus is the agent who posts......

Great. Where's the manufacturing system? That's what we need. As I said, promising research.



posted on Aug, 23 2008 @ 12:36 AM
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That's the crux of the issue. This article I posted is about Penn State research so at this early stage might not result in a commercial product for years. The Eestor company is supposedly in the process of commercialising this technology, but being private and highly secretive there is only a few press releases and comments by Leibman of Lockheed Martin. They have committed their first commercial production unit this year, but since they've missed previous commitments I won't be surprised if it slips to next year.



posted on Aug, 24 2008 @ 03:00 PM
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Here is another company that is in direct competition to EESTOR and with a lower cost and more practical product.

www.1-ltl.com...

Dave




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