Karl Marx was a Practising Satanist

Perhaps this is not as widely known as I had assumed. The evidence that Karl Marx was a practising Satanist is overwhelming. His diaries contain a reference to the initiation rites that he underwent in becoming an initiate.

This article is particularly revealing:

www.crossroad.to...

Here is an extract:



This biography of Marx includes relevant information: Who was Karl Marx?

Here is a quick extract:



Those who are aware of these things are not in the least surprised that Communist governments have proved to be vehemetly anti-God, resulting in the imprisonment, exile and even execution of untold masses of people who held to their faith in God.









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Ah I do not know whether he was a satanist or not, but he was ordinary Khazar Jew, so there actually is a good change that at least he was much Satanist like power hungry selfworshipper. He of course imagined a system perfect for elites - it would be preferable to sit upon top of the communist hierarchy and pick the best apples and send the rest to the 'comrades'.

Somebody in some else thread said something about communism improving the quality of life etc... Well that is merely the smoke screen illusion, for making people alike, it will degenerate human being into a crowd animal. And that was precisely his goal.

Kudos for the post. Starred and flagged because of the controversy it might stir

I'll retreat back into my grave.

All the best,

-v

Most satanists believe in self-empowerment, individuality and a spiritual dimension to life....things incompatible with either Marxism or Communism.

If Marx ever did dabble in Satanism, he sure as hell didnt subscribe to it.

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ahhhh refreshing, something new, many thanks, a star and flag Pause

i'm going to look into this.

No wonder, as you say that Christians have been on the receiving end from the communists in such a severe way.

i think satanist have a firm grip here in the uk also. A minister i know of says he doesn't believe in satan? doesn't believe or worships? who knows
either way the sheep are at risk me thinks.

from an outside source, fairly interesting



maybe mt Marx had a larger and wider influence than was thought

www.tribwatch.com...

david

With as much anti-communist propoganda and anti-socialist propoganda flying around, it wouldn't surprise me if it was completely fabricated. Especially given the institutionalization of our capitalist way of life.

'Those evil communists and/or socialists, they must all be evil devil worshiping baby killers'.....


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i think it fits with actual communismas opposed to the ideal

david

Communism is not evil. It is simply a ideology that cannot work in our society. Human beings are not ants. Thus all the conflicts, dead and such.
If it makes people feel better- they can blaim Communism "invention" on their own personal boogeyman - satan/ists, Khazarian/whatdoesitmetterwhich Jews, Zionists, NWO,aliens .....
But all in all - it is failed ideology that can appeal to certain inexperienced people who are willing to do a lot of crimes for it.
Edit - spelling

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Christians tend to see everything anti-christian as being the same thing.

But Satanism and Communism are very, very different from each other...polar opposites in fact.

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Hi. I'm quite taken aback at how surprised people are at this information. How do you react to the additional evidence I've now included in the OP (which I originally promised to add)?



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Fair comment if this is new to you. But are you prepared to dig a little before forming an opinion? Again, perhaps you could look over the first article. Thanks.

(A little background. It is about 25 years since I first came across this information. When I dug out the two books that I thought might have contained the quotes I couldn't find what I was looking for, and so found the information on the web. I've now remembered which book I got the information from. Unfortunately I leant it to someone some years ago and have not received it back.)

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Hello

i have found this quote of Karl Mark

seems he might not have been quite the Atheist



and he wrote this in a poem

taken from Richard Wurmbrands book Marx and Satan
ISBN-10: 0891073795



sounds familiar to a Christian

david



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I once used to think in similar manner, but now I must ask you to allow me to disagree: Considering that it was unspoken objective of communism to kill free will in national level, one can barely say that it is not evil. If something - no matter if you call it God or mere biological procesess - granted us with the option of choice and in a sense free will, trying to deny that is in my opinion evil.



Hmm, before I leave your comments about personal boogeyman shine alone in it's irrelevance, I must comment that according to Robert Wilton, certain executive branches of communist hierarchy were quite heavily populated by Khazar Jews.

Anyway, since this is not really the subject of this thread, I rather not continue bringing in unimportant details.

Sincerely,

-v

Response to OP:

Im not at all "taken aback" by your info. Im just pointing out that its wrong. In doing this I am not following a christian or communist or satanist agenda but just stating the obvious.

Marx was an atheist who did not believe in supernatural realities. Therefore, he cannot be a Satanist.

Simple as that. Just because he checked out a thing or two in his youth, doesnt mean he subscribed to it.



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Hello again LE. There is another possibility. He turned against God, became a Satanist, and expressed enmity towards God through the promotion of an atheist agenda.


You say you are not taken aback by this info, just pointing out that it is wrong. But what you are saying appears to be based on assumptions about Marx that have been spoon-fed to us. Things are not always as they seem!

Obviously people form different opinions - I've no problem with that. At the same time there is evidence here that may lead to some people seeing Marx in another light, and one that makes perfect sense.

Ahh! (First ever) double post.

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can you please define "Satanist."

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That is a very reasonable request - definitions always promote clarity in a discussion.

It appears we are dealing with someone who, for some as yet unspecified reason, became embittered against the One he had been told held his fate in His hands. (Perhaps a reasonable guess might be that a woman he loved became betrothed to another.) In order to express his newfound outright opposition to God he determined to join forces with those who worship the antithesis of God.

Judging by the words Marx used he may have made this choice in a very emotional state. He may therefore not have given careful consideration to the gravity of his decision. As is often the case he may well have entered the realm of inviting influence from dark spiritual forces without realizing they would bind and control him rather than allowing him to simply dabble to satisfy a passing urge.

There is evidence he took part in an initiation ceremony. I have no prurient interest in exactly what he got up to. The issue is that he got involved with those who seek to draw near to Satanic forces, and that this does not accord with the commonly-held belief that he was a straight-forward atheist.

As such he may possibly have remained on the periphery after a period of experimentation. On the other hand he may well have climbed a hierarchy. It is therefore not clear whether he became deeply committed or at some point drifted away from the activities hinted at. All we can see is evidence of real animosity towards God that appears to have led him to join with those who gather in Satan's name.

I will try to do some more digging. If I discover more information I will add it.

Well, you´re certainly right about his animosity towards religion. And its certainly correct that communism has caused much harm. Ive often pondered what type of dark forces created it.

Out of curiosity: Who would a christian have more in common with: A satanist or an atheist? What do you think?

So an out of context line from Marx's poetry condemns him as a Satanist? John Milton wrote "better to reign in hell than serve in heaven," does that make him one as well?

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I try not to think in terms of stereotypes. As a Christian I take people as they are and if possible try and bring some blessing into their lives.

I perceive and deal with people on the basis that we all have the same Maker. I have that in common with a satanist or an atheist.

Obviously there are different beliefs, attitudes and ways of living. But I relate to people on the basis of what we have in common as far as possible.

hello

'The Synthetic Society' whose goal was to create a 'one world religion'.invited Frederic Myers of the S P R. to join and together they created "The preamble of all religions." It include the dogma, "departed spirits can communicate."

The Synthetic Society whose goal was to create a 'one world religion' membership was reportedly dominated by proponents of Hegel's dialectical philosophy, which became Karl Marx's dialectical materialism.

Communism and the occult are written about in the Fabians, where According to, Edward Peace and Frank Podmore, the authors were instrumental in the genesis of both the The Society for Psychical Research and Marxist societies of London. Peace quoted that the work of Westcott, Hort and Sidgwick's 'Ghostly Guild' and his own Marxist activities as

"our common work."

david


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