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This NWO Situation is Not Your Fault.

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posted on Aug, 22 2008 @ 06:46 AM
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I get really tired of the amount of people out there warning us all to wake up to this whole NWO thing before it occurs because in my opinion, it was too late long before any of us were born. The only people listening to those who talk about 'waking up' are the ones who are already awake to the things that are going on in our world whilst the vast majority remain frightfully ignorant.

We all like to say that something must be done but I'd like to ask, beyond educating myself, keeping mainstream media at a great distance and giving out my ideas in the conversations I have in everyday and on websites like these, what else can be done? If everybody suddenly thought the way we do on this website, it would all be over in a moment due to mass non-participation. How can you control anything when the mass collective says no.

In short, there aren't enough of us in any form of unity to stop anything. The next time you hear someone ask you what you're going to do and how much of this is your fault, damn them. You've already done your part in this and that was to wake up. The guilty parties are primarily these 'elitests' and secondly, the rest of the world for being so pig ignorant that Paris Hilton's porno videos, Britney Spear's breakdown and who wins this rigged US election has become more important than life itself. I refuse to place the blame on myself with this one because short of going out there and blowing up government buildings in some sort of terrorist act, I have acted entirely within my boundaries as a civilised human being. My weakness in this material world was my choice to love and not to hate. My children will grow up to understand the dangers of this world both seen and unseen and that people, is what part I will play in all this.

Finally, three suggestions for non-participation...

1. Get rid of the TV (Its distractive, its wastes you and your time, its not a form of truth, it forms your opinions for you, it works against your development and progression as a spiritual being)

2. Get rid of the radio (Much the same a TV)

3. Promote points 1 and 2 to those around you

Th8nker




posted on Aug, 22 2008 @ 07:02 AM
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I understand what you mean. I was blind to all of this up until about a year ago, and have basically been trying to educate myself as much as possible - for my own survival. All we can do for the time being is try and educate people about the elite's agenda - if everyone in America and the UK knew what was really going on - I think things would be different. As it stands almost every aspect of American life revolves around paying off debt by going to a dead end job day after day, then coming home to cloud our minds with drugs and alcohol while we're brainwashed by the mainstream corporate media. I agree with you about eliminating tv - but more specifically mainstream broadcast/cable tv - hold on to your tv to view programs that speak the truth, same with radio.



posted on Aug, 22 2008 @ 07:42 AM
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Th8nker -

I hate to say this but you are bang on the money with your evaluation, I believe it wont be our generation that gels together for the good of humanity and justice, It will be our children or even their children who will come into this world with their eyes wide open, and then maybe, just maybe the world will become a better place. At the moment i'm guessing 90% of the world are blind either through their own disbelief or narrow mindedness when that figure turns in our favour then we're in with a fighting chance. Until then we can only do so much. But hey at least we're in a better positon than those 50 years ago with the same problems, at least we have places like ATS to voice our opinions and our concerns hoping that someone will hear us and believe us, just think how frustrating it was to those in the know back then! I must learn not to be frustrated by ignorance at the end of the day its not those who are blind fault either.
Good Thread



posted on Aug, 22 2008 @ 08:20 AM
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If you go along with the system, then you are part of the problem, and bear the fault. There are choices one can take, and although they are not easy choices, we (still) have the freedom to choose.



posted on Aug, 22 2008 @ 09:35 AM
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It comforts me to know I'm not the only one who feels this way!



posted on Aug, 22 2008 @ 09:56 AM
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If that was for me then it's my pleasure mate !



posted on Aug, 22 2008 @ 10:17 AM
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I can understand your pov, but the reality is the NWO is the fault of the people who make it possible, not only the people who design it. By our complacency, naivety, gullability and ignorance we have not participated in our society, we have become dumbed down and too highly specialized and we have, for the most part, been assimilated into cast based economic systems (that is what they are, even if they are labeled as something more democratic).

The NWO will pose a choice to every man and woman on earth: will I sell my soul to the devil for an ever dwindling confort zone or will I stand up for what I know in my heart of hearts to be right?

And there is no way in hell you're going to escape that choice, no matter how much you try to shun your own personal responsability. And once it's made that will be who you really are, rationalizations will not withstand the reality of your opression.

The good news is if we get critical mass and over half the population wakes up to the NWO agenda and dismantles it, then it will likely be gone, at least for our lifetime, possibly forever if the right failsafes are incorporated into the laws of the lands.



posted on Aug, 22 2008 @ 10:55 AM
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Juts my 2 cents:

When I was 12 years old, I was tested by Mensa and was deemed to have an IQ of 152. At this time my family watched very little TV.

When I was 16 (and watched on average 4 hours of TV per day) my IQ was measured at 144.

When I was 18 I re-applied to Mensa and was denied after testing. My measured IQ was around the 120 mark.

Now, at age 30 i have watched NO TV for 18 months and my current IQ is...
(wait for it)

152.




Case closed?



posted on Aug, 22 2008 @ 11:17 AM
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The NWO
is a natural progression because the masses have begged for it to happen.

(see Illuminati=extension of nature for more info)

plus, dont you have a cell phone, a credit card, and id on you all the time? whats so different in the NWO? a chip?
and do you think you that the NWo is not here now?

also, there is nothing wrong with tv or buying products. You just have to be aware that its all propaganda and for fun.

80 years will luck or even less. have fun with it.
The nwo would not exist if the masses did not demand for it.

You are right though, the ONLY thing and the important thing u can do is TAKE RESPONSIBILITY FOR YOURSELF and your family.

all of this SAVE THE WORLD, WAKE PEOPLE UP crap is for idiots who want to get burned out and not be responsible.
its the most outward, avoiding personal responsibility kind of thing to do to save the world or try to wake people up

LIke I say in my posts.
EVERYONE wakes up to the matrix (artificial womb) but CHOOSES to go back into it because they dont want to face reality.



posted on Aug, 22 2008 @ 02:24 PM
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Hey MrJelly,

I believe the tipping point of the NWO is indeed the chip. Its game over from there on in in terms of personal freedoms. As for having cell phones, credit cards and ID, you write like we have a choice with many of these things. A cell phone, certainly, I'd agree with you. Its a convenience thing and I'm guilty as charged. Credit cards I do have but only if I was in real trouble financially (ie all my balances are zero with nothing owed) and ID is necessary to do anything these days. We have the choice to either participate in this system or live out in the woods.

Additionally, if we were to be fanatical about not supporting the NWO in any way, we wouldn't have the computers at our disposal to have this conversation. Perhaps some of these technologies are actually benefitting our progression and development as a spieces rather than hindering it? I suppose it all depends on what you do with the extra time you have from these conveniences. It is next to impossible to not be involved to an extent and its been designed that way. I run a business creating safety training programs and there is no possibilty of running a company without a bank account.

I was also interested in your Matrix example about choosing to go back to a fake reality. I think generally, this is true. Again, I was guilty a while back. I used to drink very heavily almost every day to drown my sorrows and escape the world but I realised there is no future in ignorance. I haven't had any alcohol or drugs in over three and a half years because I refuse to turn away from reality. I would love to have a drink occasionally but I guess its not a part of the path I chose.

Th8nker



posted on Aug, 22 2008 @ 06:16 PM
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The NWO is not the technology, it is what is being done with the technology by the old money elitists. The new order is neither new nor order, mearly the age old apropriation of society by agressive, selfish people that see themselves as rulers of the world.

We have a choice of using technology with democracy, with checks and balances, without a big brother cenario, and people must never forget this choice. They must also never take the technology for granted and always have at least a notion of how a technology works and what it's possibilities are, because the con artists at the top are going for broke and trying to turn technology back into religion, and the people back into slaves.



posted on Aug, 22 2008 @ 08:06 PM
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I gotta agree with Zepherian, the problem is different perceptions on who and what the Illuminati are, to me there the elite, very evil people who use mind control (MK ULTRA anyone), everyone who fits into the pyramid and knows there Illuminati and dosen't speak out about it ect ect, but i see people defending them but the perceptions are always different.


Like MrJelly dosen't put any stock into this www.thewatcherfiles.com...

And i may, so what are we even arguing about, the mix up in the perception core is one of the problems when dealing with the Illuminati.



posted on Aug, 22 2008 @ 11:13 PM
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I almost completely agree Th8nker.

I admit I watch some TV shows, but only what I specifically choose to watch. I haven't had a TV of my own in a long time, and it's quite a good riddance.

The NWO is inevitable at this point, but I choose to remember that, like all great paradigms, it will come crashing down. There will be a time that is better for mankind, and the people will have to choose if they want to keep it and for how long. This is the cycle that's been going on since the dawn of civilization. Only until material scarcity is solved (which I do believe is possible through technology), will the cycle start to end and a new one begin.

I just hope it happens within my lifetime



posted on Aug, 23 2008 @ 04:44 AM
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I'm totally in the opinion that the NWO is not the technology that it uses to its own ends although I can't say that by paying for an IBM computer or a Sony TV, that somewhere along the line, some of this money is going back to be used against us. I have no way to verify that though. However, what is the debt of the US and how many trillions are missing in black budget projects (like MK ULTRA)? Begs the question doesn't it.

To clarify my perception perception for King Seesar, the NWO are the men/women/things who call themselves the elite (in my opinion, they're the scum of the earth and at the bottom of the moral heap) and any process or intention that contributes to this global system. The technology alone is what it is. The ideology is the vessel to get from point A to B. Either way, if the NWO is ultimately just an opinion, then I have the right to say no with it.

Th8nker



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