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Latest Polls after new NIST report

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posted on Aug, 22 2008 @ 01:38 AM
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Check out the latest poll after the Latest NIST report came out.

news.aol.com...

Do you believe that fire brought down World Trade Center 7?
No 44%
Yes 43%
I'm not sure 13%

Total Votes: 95,132


Do you think federal officials are hiding anything about the 9/11 attacks?
Yes 58%
No 35%
I'm not sure 7%

Total Votes: 97,869


[edit on 22-8-2008 by ULTIMA1]




posted on Aug, 22 2008 @ 02:06 AM
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I'm sorry this thread did not get the attention it should have received...

The truth is the truth...

Let us hope real freedom rings!

Good find



posted on Aug, 22 2008 @ 03:23 AM
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This actually pisses me off.

Is this not a slap in the face that they release a 100% garbage report, then immediately gauge public reaction as if they're trying to decide how to best handle the backlash?

I'm just waiting for someone to actually start responding to these animals with something a bit more appropriate than a little internet acknowledgment that yeah, we know they're lying to our faces every single day.



posted on Aug, 22 2008 @ 03:25 PM
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Its so funny that people do not notice how the NIST reports pretty much contridict each other.

Also how can the latest report be taken seriously when another NIST report states they failed to recover any steel for testing?



posted on Aug, 22 2008 @ 03:27 PM
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The following is my opinion as a member participating in this discussion.

I don't put any faith in polls one way or the other. The results only contribute to a herd mentality.

Peace



As an ATS Staff Member, I will not moderate in threads such as this where I have participated as a member.



posted on Aug, 22 2008 @ 03:28 PM
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Ultima.

When was the steel removed from Ground Zero?

What was the date NIST took over the investigation?

Please answer those two questions.



posted on Aug, 22 2008 @ 03:36 PM
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Originally posted by ThroatYogurt
When was the steel removed from Ground Zero?

What was the date NIST took over the investigation?




1. Faster then it should have been for a criminal investigation going on.

2. NIST was behind on the investigation, which only makes their report even more doubted.

Both of your questions actually support my claim that the NIST report cannot be taken seriuosly.

1. They did not recover any steel for testing.

2. They were late on the investigation.

So now you please answer the question. How can we trust this latest report with all the problems with it?



posted on Aug, 22 2008 @ 03:45 PM
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Can you read?

Answer the two questions please, or do I have to hold your hand as usual?



posted on Aug, 22 2008 @ 03:50 PM
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Even though I don't agree with much of your opinion on this event I do like how you try to present the evidence.

Why don't you answer your two questions? That way the, as you call them, 'truthers' can either confirm or conflict the dates you give. It's much easier that way instead of posting a couple simple sentence questions that will only result in bickering.

Don't you agree? I am saying this because I honestly believe that you are trying to present evidence as you see it. I may not agree with all that you have said but I must admit that you do make a decent argument.

So for 'less' arguments sake, let's just cut the bull and give the answers so they can be debated. If it is relevant to the OP.



posted on Aug, 22 2008 @ 03:52 PM
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We all know he will not give you a straight answer. It would go against his conspiracy theory. I expect a song and dance for several posts, then will change the subject. We all know the pattern...



posted on Aug, 22 2008 @ 03:57 PM
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Originally posted by ThroatYogurt
Can you read?


Can you read? I answered your questions. Or are you just ignoring the answers becasue they do not fit into your fantasy world?

1. Faster then it should have been for a criminal investigation going on.

2. Even you stated that NIST was behind on the investigation, which only makes their report even more doubted.

Both of your questions actually support my claim that the NIST report cannot be taken seriuosly.

1. They did not recover any steel for testing.

2. They were late on the investigation.

So now you please answer the question. How can we trust this latest report with all the problems with it?



posted on Aug, 22 2008 @ 03:59 PM
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posted on Aug, 22 2008 @ 04:04 PM
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Originally posted by ULTIMA1

Can you read? I answered your questions.



No you didnt. He asked for dates, you did not provide any....instead you said this:


1. Faster then it should have been for a criminal investigation going on.

2. Even you stated that NIST was behind on the investigation, which only makes their report even more doubted.



Why not give him a straight answer? A simple date? Instead you avoid the question, like always.



posted on Aug, 22 2008 @ 04:07 PM
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Originally posted by ULTIMA1
Hey kid, who asked for your input?

We all know that i have proven that you are a liar and cannot post evidence to support anything you post.


My my, someone throwing a temper tamtrum.

Also, I completely owned you on your "AVIRIS" thread, so much so that you were too embarrassed to admit you lied in it. (lied about contacting mods to check, lied about the AVIRIS checking for radiation, lied about putting me on ignore 2 times.

Seems to come so easy for you.



posted on Aug, 22 2008 @ 04:09 PM
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Originally posted by gavron
Why not give him a straight answer?


I answered his questions, if either of you does like it thats your problem.

You know that both of you cannot post any real evidence to debate me or prove the official story so grow up and move on and stop living in a fantasy world.



[edit on 22-8-2008 by ULTIMA1]



posted on Aug, 22 2008 @ 04:12 PM
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Last Steel Column From the Ground Zero Rubble Is Cut Down

The 58-ton piece of steel from the south tower was laid on a flatbed truck, wrapped in black muslin and an American flag, and tucked in a corner of the pit. It will be taken out tomorrow morning as part of the ceremony marking the end of the recovery effort at ground zero. The world will participate by television


Published: May 29, 2002


Ok Roger. I didn't ask you opinion as to the speed of the recovery. I asked WHEN. So there you have it. May 2002. 37 weeks then spent removing it.

Now..

NIST started their investigation August 21, 2002



posted on Aug, 22 2008 @ 04:12 PM
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Originally posted by gavron
Also, I completely owned you on your "AVIRIS" thread, so much so that you were too embarrassed to admit you lied in it. (


Thats so funny, since you were too immature to admit who actually requested the flyover.

Now please get back on the topic before i report you to a mod.



[edit on 22-8-2008 by ULTIMA1]



posted on Aug, 22 2008 @ 04:15 PM
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Originally posted by ThroatYogurt
NIST started their investigation August 21, 2002


Yes and didn't the event happen on 9/11/2001?

More proof that their report would be incomplete, and cannot be taken seriously as an official report.



posted on Aug, 22 2008 @ 04:15 PM
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44 percent of internet poll takers lack knowledge of fire fighting and structures and can not read and understand the NIST report on WTC7. What is new? Knowledge is the key to understanding reality, those few people who took the poll, 44 percent of them are ignorant on fire. Is anyone surprised?



posted on Aug, 22 2008 @ 04:15 PM
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The NIST investigation didn't start until later. But that doesn't wash their hands of it, though. It seems they were a part of the collection process from the beginning. From wtc.nist.gov... page 31/112 they talk about the effort beginning in October, 2001: "Dr. J. Gross, a structural engineer at the National Institute of Standards and Technology (NIST) and a member of the FEMA/ASCE BPS Team, was involved in these early efforts."

Then later on page 32/112: "Volunteers from SEAoNY, with assistance from additional NIST personnel, continued their presence at the recovery yards and identified, catalogued, and shipped steel specimens to NIST through October 2002."

Doesn't say exactly what they did, but at least they could have spoken up and said "Hey, this is all evidence we may need later!"

Added: It looks like the collection lasted until October 2002....two months after NIST began in August.

[edit on 22-8-2008 by NIcon]



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