True origins of the Illuminati.....

Good thread and I do wonder if we dont know where the origins of the Illuminati really come from as for all we know any evidence of who they were, Could have been destroyed a long time ago. And if I was planing to gain as much power and had a plan like they could of had. I would destroy anything that could connect the full truth. And if their power then was as strong as we fear, They could have added lies as history along the way to hide it more. I personally would hope that they have left a trail for us to find

Weishaupt is not the original founder of the Illuminati. That is just common misconception. I'm not a conspiracy buff, but I can give you this much information in surity that Weishaupt is not the founder of the original Illuminati.

In the ancient times, secret societies were known as Mysteries.

The modern day Illuminati seems to take very much from these ancient mysteries.

It's not a country club, people. You have to be SELECTED for it or BORN into it. What are the qualifications? I don't know. Some think that you have to be of ANGELIC bloodlines.

I didn't read every page but Illuminati originally started from the Knights Templar that went on a blood crusade searching for the holy kabal which had codes/spells for REAL magik.

I learned this from Illuminati vol.2 DVD and then later read this book from 1907 called: The origin of Freemasonry and Knights templar

The book can be found here for free:
www.scribd.com...

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ahhh the mystery religons i think they were the orgins of sacred knowledge and seen as illuminated one's

this knowledge then went underground /more secretive

I would wager a guess to the person at the beginning of the thread that saw the U.S falling as the world is introduced/ phased into the NWO that the mechanism for this action would be the globalists allowing OPEC to drog the dollar peg and the petro dollar link En masse. This would fracture the only thing keeping the U.S as a superpower, with the ability to spend way way way above our means (what we produce) as well as finance and sustain our military strength. Perhaps a new administration will be put into office that is more anti-war to allow this transition to occur smoothly or perhaps a war (problem) is needed so more can clamour (reaction) for something to be done/ (solution). Either that or high food and energy prices from maintaining a dollar peg will do the trick, this would be the result of a new upleg in oil and commodity prices that call for lots of action around the world. I think the globalists get their direction/insight from the Illuminati

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For me I never head of the Illuminati until I read "Pentagon Aliens".

So thats the origin for me.

It is used in connection with modern day dirty tricks and science suppression.

Amazon forum on Nikola Tesla.. special target of the Illuminati

Just started and don't think that question will get the truth.

reply to post by timilluani

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If you know this to be a fact then please share evidence or at least the source for this belief you have. Please explain.

reply to post by buds84

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Ah but what was their source? Just because something is published or released does not make it true. What proof did they provide or was it speculative connections?

This seems like a genuine lead. what is your source?

I consider the Illuminati "the illuminated ones". Light beings who came from the sky.

There are different opinions on why they came.

beingoflight.brotherofyeshua.com...

Well, keep on digging people... and you will run into a order called the
Teutonic Zionist ... they ... are the real threat... we are researching bloodlines... would you care to join us in identifying them...
www.jordanmaxwell.com - seems to have the most research on the subject.
I can not go much deeper -- but this order is what it is... SATAN

search.msn.com...

reply to post by Masonic Light

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True he had a charter from OTO but he had charter from rosicrucian lodges in France unrelated to this. His contact with Reuss and the OTO and his correspondence with Reuss is well documented but have never been used as a claim to rosicrucian authority by AMORC.

Lewis recieved *honorary* degrees from Reuss in OTO and Memphis Mizraim but were never initiated. They were however for a part in correspondence as Reuss and Lewis was working out a collaboration in America. Sadly, it did not become anything out of it. If it had, the pre-thelemic system of OTO could perhaps survived in a purer form to this day.