Good thread and I do wonder if we dont know where the origins of the Illuminati really come from as for all we know any evidence of who they were, Could have been destroyed a long time ago. And if I was planing to gain as much power and had a plan like they could of had. I would destroy anything that could connect the full truth. And if their power then was as strong as we fear, They could have added lies as history along the way to hide it more. I personally would hope that they have left a trail for us to find

Weishaupt is not the original founder of the Illuminati. That is just common misconception. I'm not a conspiracy buff, but I can give you this much information in surity that Weishaupt is not the founder of the original Illuminati.

In the ancient times, secret societies were known as Mysteries.

The modern day Illuminati seems to take very much from these ancient mysteries.

It's not a country club, people. You have to be SELECTED for it or BORN into it. What are the qualifications? I don't know. Some think that you have to be of ANGELIC bloodlines.

ahhh the mystery religons i think they were the orgins of sacred knowledge and seen as illuminated one's

this knowledge then went underground /more secretive

I would wager a guess to the person at the beginning of the thread that saw the U.S falling as the world is introduced/ phased into the NWO that the mechanism for this action would be the globalists allowing OPEC to drog the dollar peg and the petro dollar link En masse. This would fracture the only thing keeping the U.S as a superpower, with the ability to spend way way way above our means (what we produce) as well as finance and sustain our military strength. Perhaps a new administration will be put into office that is more anti-war to allow this transition to occur smoothly or perhaps a war (problem) is needed so more can clamour (reaction) for something to be done/ (solution). Either that or high food and energy prices from maintaining a dollar peg will do the trick, this would be the result of a new upleg in oil and commodity prices that call for lots of action around the world. I think the globalists get their direction/insight from the Illuminati

[edit on 1-8-2008 by cpdaman]

Originally posted by Anonymous ATS
The Illuminati was founded by Galileo Galilei to help scientists of that time practice their work without being persecuted by the church. Its started as a peaceful organization till it began facing persecution. The church branded the Illuminati as Satan....it was never satan just scientist. But when scientists began dying they could hold it in no more....so they began attacking the church, by logical financial methods, not terrorist acts. they were people with the highest intelligence and not terrorist.

This seems like a genuine lead. what is your source?

u want my hint start serching in the ancient egyption templs and these stuff .i live here in egypt .we all agree that the first symbol of mason is the eye of Ra .Ra the god of ancient egypt .in my history book( i know it may have some lies to hide masons or illuminati) they say that once Ra become in the top of all the other Gods. i think it is the time which mason started sorry my english is baddddddddddddd