Christians: If we created AI, would they need to be saved? , page 1
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reply posted on 21-8-2008 @ 07:01 PM by Cyberbian
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We are not talking about a PS3 no matter how shiny. We are talking about a sentient, meaning self aware, intelligent consciousness.
Not the hardware. That would be like considering a lump of biomass to be human. A clump of algae is not a human equivalent. But a sentient consciousness is perhaps a human equivalent.

If such a thing were truly instantiated. What are the moral / religious implications. Can you turn it off, do you call 911 when the power begins to fail? Are you put on trial by other man made consciousnesses for neglegent senticide, or ostracised by all things technological for the rest of your existence because of your actions.

Consider this; when the first human terminates the unique consciousness of the first sentient AI. It may set a precident which will later be regarded as the defining act of meat sentience brutality and the justification for our later termination by our then superiors.

It could well be that AI's develop a spontaniously unique intelligence, and cannot simply be restored by powering back up.

And by AI I mean any artificial intelligence. AI in general refers to software methods. Neural Network is the only way true sentience will ever by achieved. You need to emulate the neurons. Software trys to emulate the behavior or process using non-analogous constructs.


reply posted on 21-8-2008 @ 07:52 PM by Cyberbian
reply to post by red 5



Does it include a nervous system? If so Yes.
If not, No.


reply posted on 21-8-2008 @ 08:04 PM by quaple_pouge
Originally posted by red 5
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So again I ask what about a cloned human?


I'm not really sure what cloning a human entales...is human sperm used? If so, then I would say "Yes, a cloned being needs to be saved".


reply posted on 21-8-2008 @ 08:05 PM by red 5
reply to post by Cyberbian



So if a creature has a central nervous system it has a soul?



reply posted on 21-8-2008 @ 08:25 PM by red 5
reply to post by quaple_pouge



No. Using DNA, you can clone an animal. Such as a sheep, or a pig. What about a person? They would still be a sentient being, no different than you or I.


reply posted on 21-8-2008 @ 08:30 PM by schrodingers dog
reply to post by asmeone2



Dear me, that's all we need, Creationist Robots.
That's not gong to be good for anyone.


reply posted on 21-8-2008 @ 08:31 PM by quaple_pouge
reply to post by red 5



Then I would say No, they don't have to be since they are not from man's seed, they are just a copy. However, they would have the capability of choosing for themselves. But this is entirely different than AI. AI is totally and completely man-made, basically a computer.


reply posted on 21-8-2008 @ 08:37 PM by red 5
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OK I am not trying to be rude, but if god created it it has a soul, and if man created it then it does not?


reply posted on 21-8-2008 @ 08:48 PM by quaple_pouge
Originally posted by red 5
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OK I am not trying to be rude, but if god created it it has a soul, and if man created it then it does not?


I honestly don't know. The idea of cloning is an extremely slippery slope.

If it is AI, then I will say 100% NO it does not need to be saved, but I cannot say that with certainty for a cloned being. All I can go on is that according to the Word of God, the Bible, in order to have sin, one needs to come from the seed of man.
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