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Topic started on 21-8-2008 @ 06:31 PM by sc2099

FDA: OK to zap spinach, lettuce with radiation


www.msnbc.msn.com
WASHINGTON - The government will allow food producers to start zapping fresh spinach and iceberg lettuce with just enough radiation to kill E. coli and other dangerous germs, a key safety move amid increasing outbreaks from raw produce.

The Food and Drug Administration has determined that modern irradiation techniques kill food-poisoning germs without compromising the safety or nutrient value of raw spinach and lettuce. Its new rule takes effect Friday.
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reply posted on 21-8-2008 @ 08:18 PM by antar
reply to post by marg6043



Marg I spent so little on the seed and the grow light was a 17 inch one for 12usd. I ordered a second bulb as my old one got stomped, so I will have 34 inches of lettuces and goodies, but what I mean to say is that you can do the same and grow what you know is healthy, safe and you can let a bit go to seed for a continuous indoor winter garden. Hurry because they will be irradiating the mail soon too, they know people are wising up and they do want us harmed.


reply posted on 21-8-2008 @ 11:28 PM by MidnightDStroyer
Originally posted by InterestedObserver
I'll take an infinitesimal amount of radiation over E. Coli any day.

Okay, this particular head of lettuce has an "infintestimal" amount of radiation when you eat it...That spinach also has an infintestimal amount of radiation: Radiation poisoning is accumulative!

There's a certain limit that a human body can take (without illness), but that's measured in a lifetime's worth, no matter how many small does you've had during that time. Get enough "infintestimal" amounts over a long period of time & it still ends up with the same problem as a single, massive dose.

No, I'm not a nuclear engineer, but by my ASVAB scores in the military, I qualified for any rate I wanted. Even then, there's a certain amount of CBR training the military gives to everyone. Plus add to the fact that I don't just sit on the laurels based from my public schooling...I've always been a prodigious reader since I first learned how to read. Medical aspects of radiation is one study I've done more than "slightly touched" in my time.

Originally posted by InterestedObserver
Have you developed cancer yet?
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Hell, they used to put radioactive metals in child's chemistry sets in the 50's and 60's. Are your parents deformed?

Actually, both of my parents did die of cancer...Although I don't believe that it was caused by what you mentioned. However, one thing that might be researched could be: Even accounting for increasing population, is there any significant increase in cancer cases over the course of the the past 3 or more generations? How many other cancer-causing factors must also be accounted for, in order to pinpoint how many of those cases were due to possible long-term increases in "normal" background radiation? Did you even think to try to find an answer to such questions before you posted?
Before anyone tries to insult me for saying it that way, I must admit that, no, I' haven't tried to find those answers yet...At this point, I'm merely asking the questions.

Originally posted by ghaleon12
Well it's pretty well known that red meat increases the risk for colon cancer. These are the same people that think Fluoride is good for people, just one in a list of "safe" toxins.

Case in point: Do you think that, when the dentist gives you a flouride treatment, he/she has a good reason to tell you to spit it out? This is because it's toxic when ingested...It's fine in the dentist's office & you spit it out, but to include it in water for ingestion is a big "no-no" for good health.

Originally posted by ghaleon12
You do know that their are a lot of bacteria in our environment, and in our intestines, including E. Coli? We have adapted as a species to handle bacteria, I'm not so sure about radiated food.

That's true: The intestinal bacteria (I don't remember the exact name of it right now) is essential for us to be able to digest any food at all...It's a symbiotic relationship. If you ever get the runs, a doctor can tell you to eat yogurt (with active cultures) because it replenishes the bacteria you lose when you...ummm...squirt it out.

Originally posted by FewWorldOrder
I just do not trust the FDA...

Neither do I. They let aspartame go through as an artificial sweetener, but it's a neurotoxin that turns into something quite similar to formaldehyde as you metabolize it. Not to mention all of the "new" drugs you see advertized a lot on TV...How many people actually notice that the "side effects" causes worse conditions than what you'd be taking them for in the first place?

Originally posted by ghaleon12
The organic consumers and natural health people are pretty hardcore though so they will be fighting tooth and nail to prevent choice from disappearing.

Yeah, but their voices alone won't be enough...We "consumers" have to help "pump up the volume."

As for myself, I'd rather choose
marg6043's suggestion...
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