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Originally posted by Voxel
What the above means is that human life has far more value to all of US than other forms of life. See how it works?
Jon
Originally posted by BlackOps719
Just dont pretend like human beings are such a blessing to this planet and beyond reproach because the fact of the matter is we are a parasitic menace to every living thing around us.
Maybe not all humans can do these things, but no dog in all the world can do even one of them.
Originally posted by Sonya610
Newsflash, not all humans are capable of doing that. There are plenty of humans in many part s of the world that can only claim the use of FIRE as the distinguishing factor that separates them from their fellow animals. They do not build anything beyond a rudimentary mud hut, they simply eat, sleep, breed, hunt/gather and sometimes fight.
Do you also have an ant colony that you're obsessed with too?
Now conversely there are ant and termite colonies that build very impressive little cities for themselves, and live in highly structured social orders. If it is about "building things" I guess the ants and termites would be more "self-aware" then many of the homosapiens inhabitng this planet.
Originally posted by burdman30ott6
an officer who did his job yet failed to go above & beyond his job description and show empathy to a speeder who most likely disturbed him by bailing out of the car babbling about "she's dead" and waving his arms around.
Originally posted by MacDonagh
And it's a well known "fact" that dogs don't go to heaven.
Originally posted by LLoyd45
or perpetrate horrible atrocities against their fellow man.
Originally posted by LLoyd45
They don't really talk, or make hand and arm gestures, and they only recognize the names we give them because of the sound of our voice.
Originally posted by chise61 If you wanna stomp something with your big ol Harley lugs, then stomp the guy that was driving, not the poor dog.
My cat's like a member of my family too, and I'd do everything I possibly could to save him if he were injured, but I'd draw the line at placing his well-being over that of another person whether I knew them or not.
Originally posted by BlackOps719
Nah brother Im not on anyones side here, I just have a profound love for animals. It isnt that I would value an animals life over a human child's, not at all. I just wanted to make clear the point that dogs and other beloved companions are very aware, they feel and think and experience joy and pain just as a human does.
Arrogance is an entirely human attribute that animals are also incapable of experiencing, just like the knowledge of good and evil,cruelty, or altruistic love for one's offspring.
To write that off as unimportant is human arrogance.
Also, please remember that for some folks out here that pet is all they may have. What may appear to be a plain old ordinary maingy dog to you could very well mean the world to someone else.
"It's just a dog. You can buy another one. Relax."
STUART — Police arrested a 28-year-old man Sunday on a cruelty to animals charge after he yelled an obscenity at a police dog in a patrol vehicle, according to an arrest affidavit.
No Sonya, I see them for what they are animals. No matter how much you'd like to think of them as sentient creatures like humans, they're not. They have no sense of right or wrong, they feel no compassion for their fellow animals, and they're driven by millions of years of instinct, not reason.
Originally posted by Sonya610
Ahhh…so you are capable of judging whether they are self-aware, whether they have a heart and soul based on how they ACT. Wow. What a gift. And because they act different than YOU, because they communicate differently than YOU do, because you have no clue how to read them and no understanding of the many many ways in which they DO communicate, you assume they they are empty shells.
You would have made a great early explorer, you and your high and mighty judgements regarding what “looks and communicates in a sentient way”. Yeah I am sure when you came across “savages” you would have been the first to point out “obviously they cannot be compared to, or considered equal to civilized man.” You could have justified your viewpoints in so many ways; “They don’t wear clothes, their primitive mindset does not recognize God or even have a concept of true marriage, their language is some gibberish that doesn’t even resemble a decent spoken language, they practice blood rituals that would horrify decent men, they are incapable of writing, they are easily frightened by firearms and other weapons like a scared animal might be. They completely lack morals and any semblance of reason or humanity. They are obviously less developed as such we can do as we like with them”.
I have no desire to own a dog, so don't worry yourself in that regard. Though I'd never harm one unless they posed a threat to me, I have no love for them either. I've had too many bad experiences with them to feel any great affection for their kind.
Another poster on here suggested you “get a dog”. NO! Do not ever get a dog. You remind me of so many around here. They get dogs, and when things turn bad, like their home is foreclosed on they leave the dog chained up in the basement to starve to death and they simply pick up their things and move.
I think you generalize too much about other people. Some individuals might do as you say, but most people I know would have the animal euthanized or find it another home if they couldn't take it with them. You sing the praises of shelters, but for the most part they're worse than turning the animal lose to fend for itself. I'm always reading something about the abuses that occur in these places.
And why? Well those people have their priorities straight. They have their precious kids to worry about, they have a lot of other far more important things to focus on. They would probably say it would be “stupid” to waste their time dropping Fido off at a shelter, why waste the gas? Its just a dog so just leave it. Who cares if it starves for weeks before it is found. Its just a dog.
In an emergency, even the authorities recommend leaving your pets behind with adequate food and water. Shelters won't accept them, you couldn't carry enough food for them, and they'd make travel difficult for you and your family. Animals can fend for themselves, and most people will not risk their lives or that of their children for a pet. Only a disturbed person would do so.
Like many of the people in New Orleans when Katrina hit. They fled and didn’t give a damn about their dogs. Worse yet weeks later when some went BACK to their ruined homes they would find the dog that had been starved for weeks and was near death.
I think your exaggerating again. That would be totally stupid placing a live dog out at the curb with your garbage..
Some simply put the weak and dying animals, still breathing, out on the curb with the rest of the trash. They had bigger things to worry about, they had their kids to think about, and dogs were certainly the LEAST of their concerns.
I've already told you, and I don't think it bears repeating again as you obviously aren't listening.
Tell me again how humans are so special. How they are so divine by nature and as such above every other form of life.
Originally posted by LLoyd45 I like to think they're intelligent and loving creatures, but a great deal of the affection we feel for them is simply the result of our projecting human-like qualities upon them.
They perceived them as being less judgmental, and therefore an acceptable source of companionship.
Originally posted by LLoyd45the majority of these individuals had poor social skills, and were incapable of forming normal, healthy relationships with other people. They compensated for their deficiencies by investing all their time and energy bonding with animals. They perceived them as being less judgmental, and therefore an acceptable source of companionship.
Originally posted by LLoyd45
Eventually the lines become blurred as to what constitutes an appropriate or inappropriate relationship with an animal, and they start relating to them in very inappropriate ways emotionally, physically, etc.
Originally posted by Neversin
Retarded, weak and just plain stupid and ignorant human (and of course he's a cop too) says:
"It's just a dog. You can buy another one. Relax."
If I'd actually believed in some of those made up gods out there, I'd pray for someone to take this weak POS out and then of course his family cos, well, with his retardedness and rather dumb mentality one shouldn't take the chance of one of his offspring to continue his ignorance...
I really hope it just doesn't stay with empty threats...
Neversin.
A Federal judge has dismissed a lawsuit by a man who was barred from the New London police force because he scored too high on an intelligence test.
Originally posted by chise61
Originally posted by LLoyd45
or perpetrate horrible atrocities against their fellow man.
LOL you said that as if it were an admirable trait
I think that is one of the things that makes the animals above us, the fact that they DON"T perpetrate horrible atrocities against each other.