Choking dog officer receives death threats

Originally posted by LLoyd45
Humans are thinking, feeling creatures, capable of creating great works of art, or destroying entire cities. They can perform acts of kindness or perpetrate horrible atrocities against their fellow man. Name one animal, living or dead, that can achieve any part of that?

Newsflash, not all humans are capable of doing that. There are plenty of humans in many part s of the world that can only claim the use of FIRE as the distinguishing factor that separates them from their fellow animals. They do not build anything beyond a rudimentary mud hut, they simply eat, sleep, breed, hunt/gather and sometimes fight.

Now conversely there are ant and termite colonies that build very impressive little cities for themselves, and live in highly structured social orders. If it is about "building things" I guess the ants and termites would be more "self-aware" then many of the homosapiens inhabitng this planet.

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1. relative worth, merit, or importance

This is the first definition of "value" as stated by dictionary.com. Notice the word "relative". What person A values may not match with what person B values.

In terms of attributing value, this topic, even though it deals with life and death, does not mean it can escape the definition of what "value" is. The act of attributing value is an inherently personal individual action.

This is why I've stated repeatedly that this argument cannot be won.

Let me give you an example. When I was 19 yrs of age I almost burned down my house when a plastic green garbage can caught on fire. I managed to stop the fire and clean up the scene so well that I thought it was a done deal. My mother questioned about the weird green stains on my carpet, the splatters on my wall and two shirts and a comforter, and the weird smell which I masked with incense. I told her it was paint. 3 days later they found the remnants of the garbage can which I stupidly told my sister to get rid of when I should have done it myself. They asked me why I couldn't tell them the truth. I told them there was no way in hell I was ever going to tell them I endangered the lives of my two little cousins and my two sisters by almost burning down the house and letting toxic fumes seep into the air.

My mother valued honesty. I valued keeping the peace and not getting sent to a psychologist or labeled a pyromaniac because I lit an unnecessary fire that burned way out of control and could have killed my family members.

Who was right? What would YOU have done? Am I insane because I value one thing over another?

The insults are appearing because values are conflicting. If you can't agree with someone, don't call them crazy or delusional. They are not. You do not know why they value what they do. They have their reasons. Why not a simple "Why do you believe that?"

Originally posted by Sonya610

Originally posted by Voxel
That is why human life is far more important than any animal's life. We depend on other people in order to survive.

Oh so human value is based on their usefulness. I see. So, if for some reason the individual human is NOT useful, they have no value based on that theory, correct?

Sheesh, you just don't get the concept of interdependence. I didn't say the value of life depends on usefulness; I said that we depend on other humans for almost everything we have and need in life. That makes human life infinitely more valuable.

Consider this:
Can you imagine a world without any pets? I can it because it would look remarkably like the world we live in now. Everyone would just find some other way to waste their time and money.

Can you imagine a world with no other people? I can't. It wouldn't resemble anything either of us know at all. You and I would be dead inside of a week.

What the above means is that human life has far more value to all of US than other forms of life. See how it works? You need other people to continue existing; but your pets are optional. Therefore, peoples' lives have more value than a pet's.

Jon

Originally posted by LLoyd45

Originally posted by Sonya610[/i

So you still can't come up with one TINY bit of logic to support your opinion, but you can make petty little spelling comments.

Impressive.

You're really disturbed if you require proof that a human life is more valuable than that of animal.. Didn't your parents teach you that when you were growing up?

Humans are thinking, feeling creatures, capable of creating great works of art, or destroying entire cities. They can perform acts of kindness or perpetrate horrible atrocities against their fellow man. Name one animal, living or dead, that can achieve any part of that?

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Personally I have found that humans are by nature twice as vicious and unpredictible as any other animal in existence. I also find that most people reap the wickedness that they sew and most of them have it coming.

A dog never built a death chamber and gassed 6 million other living creatures, a fish never murdered and raped a child for amusement and a house cat never robbed anyone at gun point.

Humans lie, cheat and then lie some more. We abuse and destroy every living thing on the planet. Humans are hateful and wasteful and ignorant, we are the most intelligent species but also the most cruel and unusual. For all of the ills that humans are capable of I will admit that there are many good and redeeming qualities as well.

Just dont pretend like human beings are such a blessing to this planet and beyond reproach because the fact of the matter is we are a parasitic menace to every living thing around us.