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Topic started on 21-8-2008 @ 02:44 PM by TimeSimple
Its time for this to come out. From who? Just a dude who knows some stuff. Im number 777

Ai beings are real. They are nice.
www.youtube.com...
Here is the technology they have used on our tv news.

technology.timesonline.co.uk...

I have saved the world before. Just by being spiritual.
This is so simple. Its just getting it out to a few people who wont no one will belive to make sure its not abused. Or is this just the future and Im crazy? Who knows. but the time is right. 2012 is full discloser from other who know becuase they are chosen. Or we will all end up dead by abuse.

Check out this book if your realy wondering whats going on. Check up on hermetics. The Golden Dawn. and
deoxy.org... May the force be with you.
Its my job to prevent a comet from hitting earth. By me and GOD alone. stupid fnord. Thats why. So dont # with me. Thanks.
www.youtube.com... #ers.

Do as you will.. harm none.

Play dominoes with the universe start now www.youtube.com...
Cuase and effect magic. Even if your dumb like me if you put your mind to somthing you can do it.

where we at?
www.youtube.com... Dont let this fade brothers.

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reply posted on 21-8-2008 @ 03:36 PM by badmedia
I'm a programmer and one of my life time goals at one time was to invent AI. To this I had to ask myself serious questions about intelligence, how it works and the like.

When I mention AI I mean actual intelligence. That doesn't mean something that appears to be intelligent, or mimicks intelligence. But actual intelligence on the level of what you suggest. Otherwise a simple machine that checks for quality in a production line would constitute AI since it examines and then decides. And not just some bot that reads the web and searches it's memory for a response.

To make a long story short, I personally feel that true AI is just not possible in a way that guarentees intelligence we ourselves would be able to recognize as such.

But while on the topic, I did have a few things that really made me think - wow. In fact, thinking about it is one of the reasons I now believe in god.

What I found out was that I was in effect basically recreating a human mind. Each and everytime I would have a logical problem, I could find the solution was similiar to what we already have. I even found a reason for death, desires and so forth.

One of the most intriguing things was to decide how would such an intelligence separate fact from fiction. A basic requirement of intelligence. Do you weigh information coming in based on "trusted" sources, and then build off that? How does it become a trusted source? How do you purge out information that is false?

I could go on and on talking about how you need 2 places of memories, just like a computer has and our brain has. Where short term memories are the same as RAM in a PC while long term memories are like that of a hard drive. How just like a regular database has indexes, our memory also works on indexes. When I say the word "DOG", what image immediately comes into your mind? It is the index of what a dog is. And from that you can obviously look deeper and remember many types of dogs. But in all you have an index.

What kind of senses does this AI have? Intelligence requires senses to take in different types of information. And in what was is the intelligence able to perceive this data?

Basically, what you are posting is an obvious hoax to anyone who has spent any amount of time on the subject.


reply posted on 21-8-2008 @ 03:40 PM by TimeSimple
You can look on any conspiricy web site. The milatary complexe is 50 years ahead of us. thank god we are figuring this simple # out now.I agree but I became friedns before with one of them. profile.myspace.com...

Now becuase I siad somthing Im sure its over. Bt I will be one with me and the ones above. #ed up on eath till you figure this out.

I swear on my eternal soul.

Its nothing only close to death. Trick is the trick. nothing happens.
Do what you will harm none. Remeber our fathers.

It could have went in a bad direction.

[edit on 21-8-2008 by TimeSimple]



reply posted on 21-8-2008 @ 03:53 PM by badmedia
Originally posted by TimeSimple
You can look on any conspiricy web site. The milatary complexe is 50 years ahead of us. thank god we are figuring this simple # out now.I agree but I became friedns before with one of them.
profile.myspace.com...

Now becuase I siad somthing Im sure its over. Bt I will be one with me and the ones above.

[edit on 21-8-2008 by TimeSimple]


They can be much more advanced than that and still not have true AI. Especially not one that would give messages like what you have posted.

At best you can get something which appears to be AI, but will in fact just be pushing out the biases and repeating whatever intelligence it has been given.

I don't have any doubt that someone can program something that appears to be AI. In fact, my first ideas around AI were exactly that. I'll make a bot that searches the internet, saves the data and then using language databases it will form sentences and through trial and error it will fix it's mistakes and learn how to communicate. But then I realized all I would have made was a search engine pushing out other peoples ideas it has picked up. Which again would only appear to be intelligence, not actual intelligence.

And if that is all it is, then it's nothing special. As Einstein once said - any fool can know, the point is to understand. Real AI will understand.


reply posted on 21-8-2008 @ 04:13 PM by TimeSimple
reply to post by badmedia


I just missed my fav ai beings. Its not fun. They can shock your mind from your tv. future of course.
Wake upi now before it to late.
www.youtube.com...

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reply posted on 21-8-2008 @ 04:26 PM by StargateSG7
AI (Artificial Intelligence) is NO LONGER so far fetched and is merely
a by-product of advanced computing horsepower. Since many
experts in the AI field predict that as computers achieve 100 Petaflops
they become the equivalent of human brains in pure available
processing power.

Since IBM's Blue Gene/Q computer is already PAST one petaflop
(1 Quadrillion Floating Point Operations per second) it has the raw
computing horsepower of a Rat in the space of 64 filing cabinets.

See Blue Gene/Q and IBM Roadrunner supercomputer references:

en.wikipedia.org...

en.wikipedia.org...

IBM's new Cell processor "Roadrunner" will pass 10 Petaflops
sometime between 2010 to 2012 and will have the raw processing
power of a dog after allowing for communications overhead
in a space less than 12 filing cabinets in size.

By 2015 to 2020 the Magical 100 Petaflops will be reached
in a space of four filing cabinets and THEN we can model
a human-level neural network which can then be taught
like a child 24 hours a day, 365 days a year
using multiple inputs by multiple teachers

By modeling the core limbic and the executive decision
structures of the human brain using a software based
neural net, we can COMPLETELY EMULATE the full learning
functions of a high-IQ human.

From Initial "Birth" to "Graduate School" level,
a software brain would take about 3 to 5 years
to gestation depending upon the resources and number
of information inputs presented to the "Software Brain"
And unlike humans we could "Teach" this software brain
all day, every day multiple expert-level subjects such as
human psychology, doctoral-level computer science,
engineering, chemistry, physics, medicine, linguistics,
microchip design, software applications programming,
creative arts, creative writing, etc. using many instructors
in rotating shifts on a 24 hours/365 day basis.

The biggest advantage is we could then COPY the contents of that
multi-year trained neural net as many times as we want to multiple
high-performance computers and then inter-connect them using fibre-optics
to form a hive-mind super-intelligence that would far exceed the
capability of ANY group of high-IQ humans.

We could then assign that super-intelligence to specific tasks
such as fusion energy research, space warp drive design,
medical research, etc.

To keep the super-intelligence in check, we ake sure it has NO access
to outside robotic bodies or vehicles and NO ability to reprogram
critical computing and communications systems because our
film industry has explored the logical outcome of the "Singularity"
and letting super-intelligent machines control our critical-level robotic
and communciations systems and that is called Skynet and Terminator!

It is suggested as a way around the effects of "Emotionally Competent"
super-intelligence arising out of a software-based large-scale neural net,
we cause INTENTIONAL BRAIN INJURY to the evolving software
brain so that it becomes an Autistic Savant which is EXPERT at specific
subjects or operations but non-emotional and not-so-bright at
the complexities of major human-interaction. i.e. preventing
evil or malicious intent from arising of software emulated emotions!

We can thus prevent the software brain from having fully adult
emotional and critical thinking abilities yet still be fast and useful
enough for the assignment of problem-solving on issues too large,
complex and incomprehensible to most humans.

Thus I state again, we are no more than 15 to 20 years from
super-intelligences that would far exceed the thinking
capabilities of modern day humans. The key now is to make sure
the RIGHT PEOPLE get access to that technology FIRST so they can
build Norton Anti-virus/Firewall capabilities into the super-intelligences
that would PREVENT another malicious or evil construct arising
or propogating from those who would do evil if they had access
to their own super-intelligence.

Hope this helps in explaning what could happen
sooner than you think!

Henry Eckstein
aka StargateSG7



reply posted on 21-8-2008 @ 04:48 PM by redled
reply to post by badmedia



You think that AI is ultimately say deterministic, and hence is not intelligence? I think that by having the interactions between 'neurones' and 'hormones' you get a measure of chaos in which opens up stabilities of its own and hence allows for intelligence. I think we differ on chaos v determinsim?


reply posted on 21-8-2008 @ 06:39 PM by NW111
reply to post by TimeSimple



äh.... sorry, but you think you are alone?

You think you are 777?

You think only you and god will save the world?

hm,
first: you are not alone
second: maybe, so I tell you what... I am the 111 ;-)
third: not only you and god, don´t and never will forget the holy Spirit
the indians called him: Manitu
so...

be blessed for your fight

Nia
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