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reply posted on 21-8-2008 @ 06:08 PM by BlackOps719
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If you want to believe that a common office fire forced steel resistant beems to melt, subsequently collapsing an entire skyscraper at free fall speed....be my guest.


Im not here to convince anyone otherwise.


reply posted on 21-8-2008 @ 06:10 PM by Andrew E. Wiggin
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common office fire?

Yeah - that'd be the only office fire - in history - to be started by a bat out of hell giant jumbo jet full of jet fuel


but yeah

just an office fire


reply posted on 21-8-2008 @ 06:12 PM by BlackOps719
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You mean the jumbo jet liner filled with fuel that DIDN'T hit WTC7?





Edit: you SURE you dont wanna go back and watch those videos now?



[edit on 8/21/08 by BlackOps719]



reply posted on 21-8-2008 @ 06:14 PM by Unit541
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Uh... a "bat out of hell giant jumbo jet full of jet fuel" did not strike WTC 7. There were several small fires, usually referred to as "office fires" in this building. There was no catalyst, such as jet fuel (we won't revisit the "jet fuel doesn't burn hot enough to weaken, let alone melt steel" argument here), to spread the fire. Only things burning in this building were file cabinets and anatomically incorrect office chairs.


reply posted on 21-8-2008 @ 06:16 PM by DeadFlagBlues
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The only buildings that fall due to mild heat compared to the steel that encompasses it were the WTC1, WTC2, WTC7. The Empire State was different, and only buildings in Spain and Venezuela can withstand an impact, burn for hours or days and not collapse. It's all that inferior construction design they got lucky with. Highly Likely.



I'm not easily swayed one way or another, but I sure as # know when something doesn't feel right and my gut is churning when I pour over this topic.


reply posted on 21-8-2008 @ 06:19 PM by BlackOps719
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It is rather uncanny, there are about 15 incidences that occured on 9/11 that were pretty much first timers....meaning that it was the first time on record any of them ever happened. All on the same day.

Gotta love that official story....the unbelievable events of that day seem to rival that of the stories of the bible.


reply posted on 21-8-2008 @ 07:30 PM by Maxmars
Originally posted by Leo Strauss
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He basically withdrew his interview from Loose Change and said he did not witness any bodies in WTC 7. He has 4 kids and a mortgage and would like to remain employed(those are my words not Barry Jennings). By the way I think he is a good guy in a tough situation.



I understand completely. A really tough situation.


reply posted on 21-8-2008 @ 08:01 PM by HimWhoHathAnEar
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we witnessed the building collapsing upon its self fromt he point of impact


See, that's exactly what can't happen. A building with a massive steel core does not fall INTO the path of MOST RESISTANCE. If the aluminum plane had done enough damage to the steel support columns, they would have leaned to a side and SLID OFF!

Even if the surrounding structure fell away, the Steel Core skeleton would be left standing there, free of all the stress of its 'body'.


reply posted on 21-8-2008 @ 08:48 PM by HimWhoHathAnEar
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The truth of this will be so obvious when it is viewed historically that future generations will use it as an example of how nations can be manipulated. IF the wars spawned by the event don't wipe us all out first.


reply posted on 21-8-2008 @ 08:59 PM by BlackOps719
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I agree completely.


The 9/11 attack will go down in history next to the Trojan horse as one of the worlds greatest scams of all time.

It will be required reading for classes like "The Fall of the American Empire" and will be discussed by military strategists everywhere as the first time a government attacked its own people for political gain.


reply posted on 21-8-2008 @ 09:14 PM by Maxmars
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I would agree..., but something wants me to bring up the point that as horrible as it is to disagree, the greatest scam of all time is the concept of fractional reserve banking and fiat currency.

9/11 is a strong second place though.


reply posted on 21-8-2008 @ 09:21 PM by HimWhoHathAnEar
reply to post by Maxmars


I would be forced to agree. Although 911 was part and parcel of the military/industrial greedfest and therefore is the same thing.
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