China will probaly get a few medals stripped when all is said and done...

But hey, mabye in London, those children will be able to Compete... LEGALY...

I have a feeling this is going to be messy.

The Chinese Communist are probably brain storming like mad trying to come up with something to get around this find.

It will be interesting to follow. It all comes down to who will give in first.

I think the Chicom's will drawn this out until it fades away or it gets so crazy the investigation is stopped.

Sort of like Iran and their peaceful nuke program (the old drawn out chess game blah blah blah)

IMHO





[edit on 22-8-2008 by RUFFREADY]

Originally posted by TKainZero
China will probaly get a few medals stripped when all is said and done...

The investigation was over a few hours ago. Verdict - China 46 Gold , American 30

Originally posted by Goradd
Usually when a gymnast Sticks a landing and the other takes a step and has leg separation the one who sticks gets a higher score...

Lukins landing was bad. Before she landed her legs were all over the place which inccurs the same deduction as having your leg slip over the place. In the end it came down to the decision the Australian judge gave which gave the medal to He

Maybe this point is moot. However, anyone with eyes can look at some of those Chinese gymnasts and see they aren't 16. Honestly.

Now.. if some of you have stayed or worked for a duration of time around South East Asia. You would know that it is very difficult to judge most asian's age. I have mistaken late twenty year olds for teens. Their small stature and slower maturity is really a factor. Go to a high school in any asian country, and you will be surprised that majority of the girls looked no younger when compare with a caucasian 13 year old. When my 16 year old daughter stands next to her asian classmates, it will give you the impression their ages are very well below her's.

Coming back, for a caucasian female, does Shawn Johnson looked like your average 16 year old ? or does Nastia Liukin looked younger than most 18 year old ? It's a fact they do. Now factor that comparing to the average asian.

BTW, how would I to believe that a hacker, used an internet cache from a chinese search engine and found a government document, written in Chinese. In the first place, how did a goverment document get to appear in the cache. The Chinese government posted it on the net ? for what purpose ? Then it's not secret. Unless it's emails and that do not appear in cache, either way, all developing countries government uses intranets.

Another yellow cake ?

Ohh.. BTW, why don't they just publish the Spreadsheet. All I see are mere words. Even if the spreadsheet was published, who is to say where it's from.

Pardon me for not trusting Fox news networks.

LOL if you are going to start banning countries for circumventing the rules then there won't be many left when all is said and done.

Let's see, the USA would among the first countries banned. And we can expect to see them back in, what, a couple hundred years.

A gymnast who is 14 and not 16...
A little girl sings the anthem but is too ´ugly´ to be shown on TV and so another little girl lip-synchs for the world´s TV cameras...


Does anyone know the chinese word for DECEPTION?

why is nobody making a fuss about the uk diving wonderkid tom daley? he is only fourteen! born in may 1994 so not even sixteen in the olympic year. why is it ok for him to compete?

[edit on 22-8-2008 by justyc]

Originally posted by GorehoundLarry
Wasn't this obvious?

I thought so. Some of the team members looked more like they were 11 or 12. The visual difference between a 12 year old and a 16 year old is very dramatic and it was obvious that most of the team wasn't 16.

A rule is a rule is a rule. Strip the medals.

It's not just He, Yang and Jiang have also been linked with documents stating that they were 13 at the time of the world games last year. This is a blight on what the Olympics is and if the IOC doesn't do anything than what is the point of the IOC anyway. If those two U.S. gymnasts were 2 or 3 years younger who knows how much better they would of did, they won gold and silver all around as it is. Not only should these girls medals be stripped, any team events they participated in, the team should be stripped, the U.S. just barely lost that team event for silver and those chinese girls participated in that one as well.

And these are just the ones were getting wind of people. If the Chinese gov't is willing and able to try a stunt like this I don't believe their aiding in cheating is isolated.

When sprinters get caught doping, not only are their medals stripped, they are banned for 8 years. Here we have the gov't actually behind the cheating, if the IOC really represented something other than a games for profit than they would kick China out for 1 olympics.

Originally posted by justyc
why is nobody making a fuss about the uk diving wonderkid tom daley? he is only fourteen! born in may 1994 so not even sixteen in the olympic year. why is it ok for him to compete?

There is no rule on the books preventing a 14 year old from competing in the diving competition. There IS a rule requiring that a participant in the gymnastics competition must be 16 or older during the olympic year.