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reply posted on 22-8-2008 @ 11:45 AM by ClintK
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I'm a college professor, but I grew up dirt poor in Steubenville, Ohio. The fact that I got to where I am today is a miracle. I must say I am
incredibly offended by the characterization of poor people in this thread as lazy. You people seem to be very good at judging poor people, but
you know nothing about how they live or what they're like. My dad died at 47 years of age from miner's lung. My mother worked as a cleaning lady
to support six kids. And she wasn't an exception, she was typical. There were many poor people in Steubenville. You don't think about going to
college. You are not surrounded by good role models. You grow up looking forward to a life of either hard physical labor or crime.
So go ahead, put other people down (people you obviously know nothing about) and pat yourself on the back about what a terrific person you are.
I guess it's rather fulfilling to be ignorant. There's a lot of it in this country.
And BTW, how many of those homes does McCain own through his own "hard work?" And how many are because he had a wife who inherited a fortune
(real "hard work" there, eh?)
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reply posted on 22-8-2008 @ 11:48 AM by BlueTriangle
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Originally posted by ClintK
And BTW, how many of those homes does McCain own through his own "hard work?" And how many are because he had a wife who inherited a fortune
(real "hard work" there, eh?)
Somebody down the line earned that money. Should we fault your kids someday when they inherit the money you accumulated through your hard work?
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reply posted on 22-8-2008 @ 12:15 PM by ClintK
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You missed the point totally. I'm not faulting McCain for having homes probably largely bought with his wife's inheritance money. I have no
problem with that. I do have a problem with the ignorant people in this thread faulting the poor for being poor and essentially saying it's
their own fault for being lazy. And then insinuating that McCain somehow "earned" this wealth.
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reply posted on 22-8-2008 @ 12:27 PM by TH3ON3
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Hah hah..I just watched the new video and that is awesome. Good for barack on this brilliant new ad. I mean if he doesn't even bother to take time to
learn how to count to seven, how can he lead our Nation.
John McCain...Can we afford to let him move into the white house...Classic!!!
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reply posted on 22-8-2008 @ 01:19 PM by TruthMagnet
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As much as it may be kindof a cheap shot - I must agree - it is a clever ad and it does appeal to my emotions.
I have had two houses forclose on my street in the last year.
The economy DOES matter - even if it's just the perception that it will be better under Obama - perception does affect reality.
Of course voting for either party is a sure way to destruction - but I won't argue voting for McCain won't just accelerate that process.
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reply posted on 22-8-2008 @ 01:50 PM by TheRooster
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Originally posted by Benevolent Heretic
Love the new Obama ad!  BTW, Obama paid off his student loans with his book sales in 2005. They had a mortgage. They know what it's like.
And when he couldn't come up with the whole $2 million for his mansion, a convicted felon picked up the tab. Now I know why his wife hasn't been
very proud for all these years. Change? Hope? Nope!
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reply posted on 22-8-2008 @ 02:37 PM by sos37
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I can easily counter Barack Obama's ad, and the question of McCain's not knowing how many houses he owns.
"For every house McCain doesn't know he owns, how many buildings did William Ayers and his wife bomb or plan to bomb?
Barack Obama. Former chairman of the Chicago Annenberg Challenge, founded by William Ayers. Both are suspected of funneling millions of dollars
through this agency to leftist activist organizations under the guise of assisting education.
Ayers and his wife also founded the Weather underground, whose members went on to kill several police officers. Ayers himself was resposible for
bombing the Pentagon.
Obama has told us that Ayers was just a guy that lived in his neighborhood, but Chicago Mayor Richard Daley has stated that the two were friends.
Barack Obama. Can you afford to put him in the White House? Can your children?"
In case you don't know what I'm talking about, check out:
www.riehlworldview.com...
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reply posted on 22-8-2008 @ 02:40 PM by Sheeper
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So is this class warfare now? McCain makes 10 mil and Obama makes 5 mil so Obama gots to get all getto on him? So what if he owns multiple houses, he
invests like millions of Americans, he even said some are just condominiums.
What you might find more interesting is that from 2000-2004 Obama donated less than 1% of his income to charities only recently stepping it up to
around 5%. Where as McCain has consistantly donated an average of 26% of his income.
But let me ask the OP one question. Why should he not own houses?
www.bloomberg.com...
pitchconsulting.blogspot.com...
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reply posted on 22-8-2008 @ 03:39 PM by Krieger
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Its not that he owns houses its that he doesn't know how many. You know I think I could remember how many I owned, if I owned any. But McCain is so
old and senile just wait during the debates. They will ask hima question and he'll just stare blankly because he will have forgotten where he is
and who he is.
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reply posted on 22-8-2008 @ 03:42 PM by TH3ON3
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Originally posted by Krieger
reply to post by Sheeper
Its not that he owns houses its that he doesn't know how many. You know I think I could remember how many I owned, if I owned any. But McCain is so
old and senile just wait during the debates. They will ask hima question and he'll just stare blankly because he will have forgotten where he is
and who he is.
hah..good answer dude krieger gets a star.
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reply posted on 22-8-2008 @ 04:47 PM by tyranny22
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I guess he could care less as well.
To me, it shows his inability to properly manage his own assets. How could we depend on him to make proper decisions on anything if he can't have an
overall idea of the situation that it encompasses?
This very well demonstrates McCain's agenda to let his administration manage his Presidency while he focuses on being "Commander in Chief", the
title and role he's longed for since 2004.
And I'm not saying Obama would be any more fit for the office.
It's a very, very sad election indeed, when we have such incompetence and inexperience on the ballot.
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reply posted on 22-8-2008 @ 09:46 PM by Tangenter
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Both candidates are wealthy.
Chances are they both own homes that they don't live in....investments or rentals. The numbers probably fluctuate.
A better question would be how many homes do they actually use as homes.
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reply posted on 22-8-2008 @ 09:52 PM by mopusvindictus
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lol I know he has one right around the corner from me in a condo high rise of sorts, don't think he goes there much, but I know he does because I
know one of his neighbors and he complains about having to go up in the elevator with the secret service because they are so unfriendly and aren't
allowed to talk to anyone.
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reply posted on 22-8-2008 @ 10:00 PM by Tangenter
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Sorry to change the subject...but, how can you have a negative BTS number of posts...and, a huge negative number at that. I'm new here...be kind.
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reply posted on 22-8-2008 @ 10:07 PM by mopusvindictus
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I accidently bought some junk in the ats store and deducted it from my BTS points instead of ats points so it went negative
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reply posted on 22-8-2008 @ 10:24 PM by Tangenter
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reply posted on 23-8-2008 @ 07:04 AM by skyshow
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Hell, he just "googled" for the first time in his life this month, and used the internet for the first time with assistance. Do we want someone
running this country with less skills than the average 13 year old? We need savy solutions and technological know how to help solve the solutions of
the 21st century. I know it sounds like a political add, but Grandpa doesn't come with the skills.
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reply posted on 23-8-2008 @ 10:19 AM by orangetom1999
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Skyshow,
All those skills are farmed out in that job...no matter who is in the office. There are people hired to do research for the president...write speachs,
prepare food, clothes, transportation etc. etc. The president just re reads the speechs...get briefed on the issues and decisions, makes changes
etc.
I cannot imagine what you are possibly thinking here.
the topic line is about how many houses McCain has for which he does not know...or claim/own.
Thanks,
Orangetom
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