The widening gap between the Rich and the Poor

Since the gap between the Rich and the Poor keeps getting larger and larger...and the Medium income earners are either becoming Richer or Poorer (more likely poorer)...So basically the middle income earners are dwindling...

Look. I'm just wondering what oyu think of the matter.

The rich are getting richer, the poor are getting poorer or staying poor. This is happening now.

What of the future?

What sort of society are we heading to in the future if the gap is widening alot NOW!???

Basically a world dominated by the rich and super rich, while all the poor people and the not many middle income earners are left lying in the dirt?

What is going to happen?

How is the world going to be in the next 10 years (not considering a financial meltdown?

How hard is it going to be for the poor to get out from being poor?

I dont think it is going to be easy. Just as it isn't easy now. But will it be harder for them to get out from the poor category?

How much influence are the poor going to have in the world or are theya lways going to be continually brainwashed, mind controlled, influenced by the rich?

Or will it eventually boil down to the poor getting so pissed off that a revolution wil occur and basically as what happened in England against the king, queen, or whatever...it will become an "off withthier heads" scenario.???

*Thinks this thread will get dropped pretty quick for some reason*

Well this is why communism was started. Marx lying in shambles after being tossed from France and then Germany observes his oppressors and sees through the controlling relgion and class stances. He finds the worker, or prolietariet, and the upper class, bourgeise. He saw reigion as a controler to keep the poor poor and the rich rich.

(sp, I know. I am tired)

The classes today are simalar and will remain until... what i don't know what can happen. Seeing as the U.S. is going socialist so therfore the rest of the world is too, then I see no better end then a socialist world or a communist one.

Then why is there more middle class today then ever before?

Originally posted by godservant
Then why is there more middle class today then ever before?

according to what i've been reading on the net.... There are less middle class than what there was.

there are more middle class in numbers but the percentage is down in ratio to the population
There fore there is less middle class
Darage the only people who are telling us this is the well off or those who have never had to struggle
they are generally in denial and for the most part elitists

Facts and figues on this problem can be juiced, so you have to watch out. This is so primarily because of immigrants coming into America by the millions, thereby dilluting the averages.

In fact people in america own almost 2 cars per person. The percentage of families that own thier home is the highest in American history. People are reconsolidating thier debts to the lowest intrest rates in 40 years. Technological revolutions have made life a lot easier through the years as well. Dispite all this, is their still a problem? Yes.

On the rare occasions I have agreed with the socialist Bernie Sanders, I realized that factors such as the above do not matter if the people do not BELIEVE that they are well off. Perhaps the media, people's burdens, and even us extanging ideas here is participating in the degregation of people's feeling of selfbeing. So even though the "poor" in America are RICHER THAN EVER, if they percieve that they are poor scum, then they ARE poor scum and they start to get pissed! A good example is jesse jackson rousing up his minions after a long degrading speech how they are STILL getting beat up and marginalized.

For us middle class types, I think the greatest threat to our self wealth are the liberal spin machines, who deal out thier guilt over progress, our continual societal problems that never get solved not matter what the funding (always needing more yet problem remains stagnent). The message they send is truly pecimistic: we are destroying nature, we destroyed the noble savages who perfectly lived with nature, we keep killing each other with guns, we keep having crime, we can't get along with anybody because they always speak about how we need more allies and talks, etc, etc. Just look how no liberal really stands up for Kerry, but rather bashes president Bush in EVERY arguement. I don't see how we get out of this mess without conservatives in power becuase the great society has been funded consistantly out pacing growth for 40 years and there has bee NO progress in the percentages.

I don't think the gap is getting out of control, and besides, the idea of capitalism is to let every man forge his own path.

A good number of poor in this country are poor for a reason, and it is not the government.

It has just become more and more expensive to live in this country, and if you have kids, that is one more thing to drag you down (especially if you have ever had to consider child care costs).

Originally posted by godservant
Then why is there more middle class today then ever before?

If there were more middle class today than ever, then the average executive wouldn't be making 400 times more than the average worker...

I agree (with Jethy). It is critical to recall that this is a capatalist state we live in. The role of government is not to ensure a comfortable middle class living for all. The role of government is to ensure people can still eat if they have no money. Which, if i might add, it does quite well.

Cas

[Edited on 17-3-2004 by Cascadego]

Government is also supposed to insure that it's people have healthcare, running water, electricity and gas. To insure that the elderly are taken care of. To insure that the disabled are taken care of.

No, it doesn't do that good of a job...

No.

I do not believe Government is supposed to be responcible for the following: health care, running water, electriciy, gas, the elderly and disabled.

Our Government is responsible only for:
1. Maintaing the existence of this Country.
2. Impose Justice (through enforcing a legal system)
3. Security, both foreign and domestic
4. Protect citizenry from Gov. (Constitution/Bill-of-rights)

To say that the Gov. is responsible for the # you mentioned is ridiculous. The Gov. in 1790 couldnt provide these things to the people of 1790, yet was subjectively substatially better than our contemporary Government. The only responsibility Gov. has to the crap in your list is to protect the investments of public and private bodies that provide for Gas, Electricity, and Elder-care. Of course, it does so the same extent it protects any citizens investments.

To be honest, i don't actually believe it is the Fed. Govs responsibility to feed the starving or the poor... I just have a soft spot for the hungry people. I once went a whole 12 hours without a #ing sandwich so i know how it feels to feel not-even-close to as bad as they do. Anyways, let em starve really.. its a # load better than letting assholes like this tell me how to live.

Cas


[Edited on 18-3-2004 by Cascadego]

Up until 1890's the American middle class was a unique situation within the US. The elitist class squashed the middle class from 1890's leading up into and causing the great depression due to lost jobs, people forced out of work by greedy companies trading bogus stocks, which led to the 1929 stock market crash and the worst US unemployment problem since... NOW.

FDR saved this country from the elitist and we'll need another visionary like FDR to save the average American from the bushonian cabal of thugonomics.