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posted on Aug, 20 2008 @ 06:57 PM
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okay.... This is just something on my mind if any one cares to answer.
What happens if a kid is born during the time period of the mark of the beast and his parents have accepted it and made him do the same at birth. Does he get punished for that in eyes of God?
Also what happens if you're still on Earth and you refuse the mark, but instead of running off and possibly dying some one with the mark just helps you out like providing shelter and food from time to time. Could that work?




posted on Aug, 20 2008 @ 11:51 PM
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To the first question- no, there would be no unjust punishment for that child.
the placing of the mark is not a future event.. it started around 321 CE.
Part of it has to do with what day you observe the Sabbath.

www.fossilizedcustoms.com...

-more info.



posted on Aug, 20 2008 @ 11:55 PM
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the tribulation prophecy is probably one of the most misunderstood prophecies in the bible. the reason is because people tend to misinterpret other parts, which then fogs up the reason there is tribulation.

matt 24:1-31 is the first place the tribulation is mentioned.the apostles asked about the temple, and then jesus uttered a prophecy about the end of the jewish system of worship and what would happen to unfaithful jews. but it also had a double fulfillment.

double fulfillments are important because they shed light as to how it is fulfilled.

first jesus gives a sign of his presence, many assume that jesus' return is in the flesh. if it was, why would we need a sign? in acts 1:9-11, it says jesus would return in like manner of his leaving. when he left, it was with little fanfare, and only his disciples knew. it is his disciples that would see this sign.

verse 14 of chapter 24 of matt says that the gospel will be preached all over the earth. so a preaching work would be happening first and would be completed before the tribulation.

verse 15 talks about the disgusting thing. in ancient jerusalem, this ment an initial attack by the romans that succeeded to the point where the legions were on temple grounds. they brought there idols or standards with them. several things to keep in mind about the first fulfillment. temple was no longer the center of worship. the jews were no longer god's chosen nation.

so any fulfillment today, would be with an organization only claiming to be of god.

when this happens, we are to "flee". since the gospel will be preached to the ends of the earth, its doubtful this fleeing is literal. it may simply mean not associating or practicing false worship with this organization that claims to be of god.

after this, the great tribulation occurs.

the initial fulfillment was when the romans returned to jerusalem in 70 CE. they barricaded the city preventing anyone from leaving. when food supplies ran out, the jews inside suffered greatly, eventually resorted to eating their own babies. when the romans came down on jerusalem, thousands upon thousands had died and suffered.

to address your question. in jerusalem, in order to survive, one had to read the signs and act before things came to pass. once the romans returned, it was impossible to change your mind. if you tried to leave, you were immediatly killed by the roman army.

in our day too, it is likely it will be the same. one has to recognize the signs and make the decision before the prophecy is fulfilled.

the great tribulation is a tribulation essentially because it is the end of this world. everything that has been designed to separate us from god will be destroyed forever. those that hang on to it will suffer too.

it will not literally destroy the world but the system in it. we know this because rev 7:14 talks about a great multitud who survive the great tribulation. it also says they washed their robes in the blood of the lamb showing that they didnt survive by luck, they actively made a choice to serve god and put faith in his son's ransom.

i hope this helps you, if you need me to go deeper on any particular point, just ask.



posted on Aug, 21 2008 @ 11:29 AM
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but instead of running off and possibly dying

Maybe you should be concerned about more important things. I live on the coast of Florida about 12 feet above mean high tide. These cataclysmic events related to the tribulation, in the book of revelation, about islands disappearing and sinking ships, would most likely kill me.
Just feel lucky if you live long enough to be concerned about your questions. The Bible says you get the mark from worshiping the beast. If a child does not do that, don't worry about it.



posted on Aug, 31 2008 @ 01:55 PM
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Originally posted by Jstykz31
okay.... This is just something on my mind if any one cares to answer.
What happens if a kid is born during the time period of the mark of the beast and his parents have accepted it and made him do the same at birth. Does he get punished for that in eyes of God?
Also what happens if you're still on Earth and you refuse the mark, but instead of running off and possibly dying some one with the mark just helps you out like providing shelter and food from time to time. Could that work?

That kid will never reach the age of accountability.

tribulation period is 7 years. at the midpoint or at day 1,261 is when the abomination of desolation happens in Jerusalem, that is the point when the antichrist will make mandatory the mark and beast worship. If a child is born on that day, he will only be 3 1/2 years old when Jesus returns.

No one is responsible for anything until that person reaches the age of accountability. The "great tribulation" is only 3 1/2 years long, or 1,260 days.



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