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reply posted on 23-8-2008 @ 01:01 PM by zorgon
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Curious thought...
The planet is undergoing serious magnetic changes with a likely pole shift in the near future
Maybe its the planet 'groaning'
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reply posted on 23-8-2008 @ 01:02 PM by zorgon
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Originally posted by The Matrix Traveller
There is probably 10,000,000 + different ways, of getting around what people think their Universe actually is, which does not involve
“electronics” or “magnetic fields” at all....
Name one... that "does not involve “electronics” or “magnetic fields” at all.."
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reply posted on 24-8-2008 @ 04:25 PM by BlasteR
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Exactly! Even if the universe is a projected quantum construct created by the human mind, it still requires the magnetic field of the human mind for
the brain to subconsciously project that reality and consciously be perceived by us. Its a problem you can never avoid!! If you took EM energy out of
the equation, we wouldn't exist anyway  .. It is fundamental to the universe and life itself... And that is a clue to how important EM energy is
to the universe as a whole. It could even be that non-locality is a subconsciously projected observation rather than an actual phenomenon. This
makes non-locality sound even wierder than it really is, but it goes to show that you can never completely eliminate electromagnetism as a major
factor in our universe.
We aren't sure about all the quantum details that connect electromagnetism to gravity, but that is another argument that could be made since all
matter with mass has gravity.. You can't escape gravity, therefore you can't escape EM energy.
-ChriS
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reply posted on 24-8-2008 @ 11:36 PM by Ex_MislTech
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Sound is made by sound waves, and there is a good chance
that using a parabolic mic you could find the strongest source
direction.
Do this from two different points of the compass, and you can
triangulate the origin.
Also you might be able to see the effect on matter suspended
in a liquid.
Much like the cloud effects after the large earthquake in China.
ie. Ripples on the pond, but much smaller.
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reply posted on 24-8-2008 @ 11:42 PM by Ex_MislTech
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Originally posted by zorgon
Curious thought...
The planet is undergoing serious magnetic changes with a likely pole shift in the near future
Maybe its the planet 'groaning'
Yes, it has happened many times before.
It has been a long time since the last one, about 780,000 yrs.
The magnetic field has been weakening faster than ever before
in recorded history.
en.wikipedia.org...
May I recommend - Magnetic Storm - The Earth's Invisible Shield
video.google.com...
Enjoy the show folks...
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reply posted on 25-8-2008 @ 12:56 AM by zorgon
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Well this time we have HAARP to toss up a shield in case the natural one fails
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reply posted on 25-8-2008 @ 07:42 AM by Ex_MislTech
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Originally posted by zorgon
reply to post by Ex_MislTech
Well this time we have HAARP to toss up a shield in case the natural one fails
HAARP uses Tesla scalar waves and is used to charge the Ionsphere,
and then discharge it by shifting frequency.
Norway has one as well.
HAARP approaches the study of the ionosphere by following in the footsteps of an ionospheric heater called EISCAT near Tromsø, Norway. There, they
pioneered exploration of the ionosphere by perturbing it with radio waves in the 2-10 kHz range, and studying how the ionosphere reacts. HAARP
performs the same functions but with significantly more power.
en.wikipedia.org...
I don't know if it would provide adequate shielding, but I suspect it is
better than sitting down here for close to 3,000 yrs with 90% of the
Earth's magnetic field gone during a magnetic pole flip.
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reply posted on 25-8-2008 @ 09:55 AM by Quazga
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Originally posted by BlasteR
reply to post by zorgon
Exactly! Even if the universe is a projected quantum construct created by the human mind, it still requires the magnetic field of the human mind for
the brain to subconsciously project that reality and consciously be perceived by us. Its a problem you can never avoid!! If you took EM energy out of
the equation, we wouldn't exist anyway  .. It is fundamental to the universe and life itself...
That's what they used to say about ether pre Michelson-Morely
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reply posted on 27-8-2008 @ 02:25 AM by BlasteR
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Exactly. And as far as the information given in the video, HAARP can create audible sound waves that drive people nuts in very specifically targeted
areas of the globe. I see it as a multipurpose ionospheric manipulator. And it is one of many worldwide (as I think Zorgon already knows).
Alaskan politicians talk about HAARP probably once in a blue moon. It largely goes undiscussed here in the Alaskan community. But the politicians
who HAVE decided to ask questions have run into a brick wall of secrecy and basically told "trust us". And at least some of them do not..
There is ALOT of damage that can be done to the ionosphere by objects such as this and, IMO, most people don't fully appreciate that..
It is an "Ionospheric Research Instrument" or IRI, which some claim can even be used as a mind control device.. How doesn't really make sense to
me at this point and it isn't discussed in much detail in the video. But we are to think that this device, which was constructed by the Air Force
and Navy, is supposedly used exclusively for auroral research under extremely high security?
Another interesting tidbit (mentioning ATS)...
blog.wired.com...
A drive by Clifford Stone on the X-Files-esque uber-site Above Top Secret to use the Freedom of Information Act to turn up UFO-related documents
has led to the release of a fascinating report, HAARP: Research and Applications. It's from the Air Force Research Laboratory and Office of Naval
Research, and it lays out the uses the military see for HAARP. Turns out the Pentagon wants some military bang for their buck from the program.
HAARP can actually perform a lot of militarily important functions, all involving the interactions of radio waves with the high atmosphere,
magnetosphere and ionosphere.
The document points out that "on the higher frequency end (VHF/UHF) transionospheric propagation is a ubiquitous element of numerous civilian and
military communication systems, surveillance and remote sensing systems." In other words, messing with the ionosphere means you can shut down VHF
radio, TV and radar signals at will. As radio hams know, the reflection and refraction effects of the ionosphere make a huge difference to long-range
radio reception, and HAARP provides the only means of influencing that.
Another interesting feature is how HAARP can influence the 'auroral electrodynamic circuit', a natural flow of electricity with ranges from 100,000
to 1 million megawatts ("equivalent to 10 to 100 large power plants"). Messing with the electrical properties of the ionosphere means some of this
tremendous flow of power can be changed at the flick of a switch. In effect, the natural flow can be modulated to create a gigantic low-frequency
radio transmitter.
Which is extremely interesting to military types. Extremely low frequency, or ELF, waves can be used for submarine communications and for probing the
planet; because of the way they propagate, HAARP can cover "a significant fraction of the Earth." The document says that the waves can be used for
"seabed exploration" and even locating mines underwater, not to mention "underground target detection."
And another..
www.kalamark.com...
In 1994 Raytheon was listed as number 42 on the "Fortune 500" list of companies. Raytheon has thousands of patents, some of which will be
valuable in the HAARP project. Twelve patents are the backbone of the HAARP project, and are now buried among the thousands of others held in the name
of Raytheon. Bernard J. Eastlund's US Patent #4,686,605, "Method and Apparatus for Altering a Region in the Earth's Atmosphere, Ionosphere and/or
Magnetosphere", was sealed for a year under a government secrecy order. The Eastlund ionospheric heater was different: the radio frequency (RF)
radiation was concentrated and focused to a point in the ionosphere. This difference throws an unprecedented amount of energy into the ionosphere. The
Eastlund device would allow a concentration of one watt per cubic centimetre, compared to others only able to deliver about one millionth of one watt.
This huge difference could lift and change the ionosphere in the ways necessary to create futuristic effects described in the patent. According to the
patent, the work of Nikola Tesla in the early 1900s formed the basis of the research.
What would this technology be worth to ARCO, the owner of the patents? They could make enormous profits by beaming electrical power, without wires,
from a powerhouse in the gas fields to the consumer. For a time, HAARP researchers could not prove that this was one of the intended uses for HAARP.
In April 1995, however, Begich found other patents, connected with a 'key personnel' list for APTI. Some of these new APTI patents were indeed a
wireless system for sending electrical power. Eastlund's patent said the technology can confuse or completely disrupt airplanes' and missiles'
sophisticated guidance systems. Further, this ability to spray large areas of Earth with electromagnetic waves of varying frequencies, and to control
changes in those waves, makes it possible to knock out communications on land or sea as well as in the air. The patent said: "Thus, this invention
provides the ability to put unprecedented amounts of power in the Earth's atmosphere at strategic locations and to maintain the power injection
level, particularly if random pulsing is employed, in a manner far more precise and better controlled than heretofore accomplished by the prior art,
particularly by detonation of nuclear devices of various yields at various altitudes... "...it is possible not only to interfere with third party
communications but to take advantage of one or more such beams to carry out a communications network even though the rest of the world's
communications are disrupted.
The government tried to make weather manipulation an official weapon of war over a decade ago by trying to pass legislation through congress when such
weather manipulation had already been outlawed years before. And we are supposed to trust the military that they aren't using this as a weapon (or
at least testing it as one)? That's reaching.. See below...
The money for that came from the Defense Advanced Research Projects Agency (DARPA, now under the acronym ARPA). In 1994 the US Air Force revealed
its Spacecast 2020 master plan which includes weather control. Scientists have experimented with weather control since the 1940s, but Spacecast 2020
noted that "using environmental modification techniques to destroy, damage or injure another state [is] prohibited". Having said that, the Air Force
claimed that advances in technology "compels a re-examination of this sensitive and potentially risky topic". FORTY YEARS OF ZAPPING THE SKY? As far
back as 1958, the chief White House adviser on weather modification, Captain Howard T. Orville, said the US defence department was studying "ways to
manipulate the charges of the Earth and sky and so affect the weather by using an electronic beam to ionise or de-ionise the atmosphere over a given
area. In 1966, Professor Gordon J. F. MacDonald was Associate Director of the Institute of Geophysics and Planetary Physics at the University of
California, Los Angeles, was a member of the President's Science Advisory Committee, and later a member of the President's Council on Environmental
Quality. He published papers on the use of environmental control technologies for military purposes. MacDonald made a revealing comment: "The key to
geophysical warfare is the identification of environmental instabilities to which the addition of a small amount of energy would release vastly
greater amounts of energy."
-ChriS
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reply posted on 28-8-2008 @ 08:39 AM by Psychopump
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Having read reports of underground bases being constructed in the US by means of a technology that either ´melts´ or ´vaporizes´ the rock and
earth I wonder...
When such work is being done, what does it sound like at ground level?
Could it be that massive underground facilities are being ´burnt´ in the UK?
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reply posted on 28-8-2008 @ 01:41 PM by LynUK
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Holy Smoke!
This is totally genuine, I just found this thread.
Look, I made a doctors' appointment because for the last week I been rendered insomniac due to a deep rumbling hum. It sounds like a big diesel
truck is parked outside my house at night, it has driven me to the bottle. Seriously. Sleeping tabs, even powerful Zolpidem (Ambien) doesn't help, it
is driving me nuts.
This is one thread I will follow with interest...
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reply posted on 28-8-2008 @ 02:34 PM by snoopyuk
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thanks for posting LynUK,
i started this thread to try to get some earwitness`s to the hum,
do you live in the area in question ??
thanks
snoopyuk
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reply posted on 28-8-2008 @ 02:37 PM by LynUK
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I live in Lancashire, not-so-United Kingdom
HAARP reach this far??
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reply posted on 28-8-2008 @ 02:39 PM by snoopyuk
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hi LynUK
i am currently in Lincolnshire,
the incident in question was a great deal further south, however there are other known hums in the Lancashire/Yorkshire border.
snoopyuk
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reply posted on 28-8-2008 @ 02:45 PM by dogsounds
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I am afraid that I haven't heard our mystery oscillations at all since I promised to record them.
FAIL.
Oh well.
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reply posted on 28-8-2008 @ 03:11 PM by LynUK
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Originally posted by Ex_MislTech
Sound is made by sound waves, and there is a good chance
that using a parabolic mic you could find the strongest source
direction.
Do this from two different points of the compass, and you can
triangulate the origin.
Also you might be able to see the effect on matter suspended
in a liquid.
Much like the cloud effects after the large earthquake in China.
ie. Ripples on the pond, but much smaller.
This hum I hear is way different, when I wear those normally very effective foam ear-plugs I still 'hear' it the same level.
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reply posted on 28-8-2008 @ 03:13 PM by stumason
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it might be noted that Sudbury has a large industrial area to the NE of the town, mainline railway (with it's inherent HV electricity feeds) and will
obviously also have HV power lines as well. I would hazard a guess and say it would something to do with one of the above.
The village I grew up in had HV pylons passing through, which ordinarily made no noise. However, on wet or misty days, there was a very loud, audible
hum emitted by them. It has been a pretty wet August....
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reply posted on 28-8-2008 @ 04:56 PM by hypervigilant
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It is strange that just this morning I experienced something like what is being described in the postings on this thread. I heard and felt a slow
oscillating sound of a very low frequency this morning. My wife heard it also, and I went outside expecting to see a helicopter or maybe a tractor. I
could hear it for 10 or 20 seconds and it stopped. I was standing bare footed on a wood deck and felt vibrations in my feet. I live in a rural area
well away from paved roads and on a hill well away from neighbors. I have felt vibrations that have awakened me at night for about the last ten years.
I don't know if this is relevant but this area is over an underground salt dome. It was a lower frequency and smoother than the sound of a
helicopter, but still similar.
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reply posted on 29-8-2008 @ 06:29 AM by snoopyuk
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hi there,
would you mind sending my your location please ??? you can do it via the U2U ms system if you wish privacy,.
thanks
snoopyuk ( OP)
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