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reply posted on 24-8-2008 @ 04:25 PM by BlasteR
reply to post by zorgon



Exactly! Even if the universe is a projected quantum construct created by the human mind, it still requires the magnetic field of the human mind for the brain to subconsciously project that reality and consciously be perceived by us. Its a problem you can never avoid!! If you took EM energy out of the equation, we wouldn't exist anyway .. It is fundamental to the universe and life itself... And that is a clue to how important EM energy is to the universe as a whole. It could even be that non-locality is a subconsciously projected observation rather than an actual phenomenon. This makes non-locality sound even wierder than it really is, but it goes to show that you can never completely eliminate electromagnetism as a major factor in our universe.

We aren't sure about all the quantum details that connect electromagnetism to gravity, but that is another argument that could be made since all matter with mass has gravity.. You can't escape gravity, therefore you can't escape EM energy.

-ChriS


reply posted on 25-8-2008 @ 12:56 AM by zorgon
reply to post by Ex_MislTech


Well this time we have HAARP to toss up a shield in case the natural one fails




reply posted on 25-8-2008 @ 07:42 AM by Ex_MislTech
Originally posted by zorgon
reply to
post by Ex_MislTech


Well this time we have HAARP to toss up a shield in case the natural one fails





HAARP uses Tesla scalar waves and is used to charge the Ionsphere,
and then discharge it by shifting frequency.

Norway has one as well.

HAARP approaches the study of the ionosphere by following in the footsteps of an ionospheric heater called EISCAT near Tromsø, Norway. There, they pioneered exploration of the ionosphere by perturbing it with radio waves in the 2-10 kHz range, and studying how the ionosphere reacts. HAARP performs the same functions but with significantly more power.

en.wikipedia.org...

I don't know if it would provide adequate shielding, but I suspect it is
better than sitting down here for close to 3,000 yrs with 90% of the
Earth's magnetic field gone during a magnetic pole flip.



reply posted on 25-8-2008 @ 09:55 AM by Quazga
Originally posted by BlasteR
reply to
post by zorgon



Exactly! Even if the universe is a projected quantum construct created by the human mind, it still requires the magnetic field of the human mind for the brain to subconsciously project that reality and consciously be perceived by us. Its a problem you can never avoid!! If you took EM energy out of the equation, we wouldn't exist anyway .. It is fundamental to the universe and life itself...



That's what they used to say about ether pre Michelson-Morely


reply posted on 27-8-2008 @ 02:25 AM by BlasteR
reply to post by Ex_MislTech



Exactly. And as far as the information given in the video, HAARP can create audible sound waves that drive people nuts in very specifically targeted areas of the globe. I see it as a multipurpose ionospheric manipulator. And it is one of many worldwide (as I think Zorgon already knows).



Alaskan politicians talk about HAARP probably once in a blue moon. It largely goes undiscussed here in the Alaskan community. But the politicians who HAVE decided to ask questions have run into a brick wall of secrecy and basically told "trust us". And at least some of them do not..

There is ALOT of damage that can be done to the ionosphere by objects such as this and, IMO, most people don't fully appreciate that..

It is an "Ionospheric Research Instrument" or IRI, which some claim can even be used as a mind control device.. How doesn't really make sense to me at this point and it isn't discussed in much detail in the video. But we are to think that this device, which was constructed by the Air Force and Navy, is supposedly used exclusively for auroral research under extremely high security?

Another interesting tidbit (mentioning ATS)...
blog.wired.com...
A drive by Clifford Stone on the X-Files-esque uber-site Above Top Secret to use the Freedom of Information Act to turn up UFO-related documents has led to the release of a fascinating report, HAARP: Research and Applications. It's from the Air Force Research Laboratory and Office of Naval Research, and it lays out the uses the military see for HAARP. Turns out the Pentagon wants some military bang for their buck from the program.

HAARP can actually perform a lot of militarily important functions, all involving the interactions of radio waves with the high atmosphere, magnetosphere and ionosphere.

The document points out that "on the higher frequency end (VHF/UHF) transionospheric propagation is a ubiquitous element of numerous civilian and military communication systems, surveillance and remote sensing systems." In other words, messing with the ionosphere means you can shut down VHF radio, TV and radar signals at will. As radio hams know, the reflection and refraction effects of the ionosphere make a huge difference to long-range radio reception, and HAARP provides the only means of influencing that.

Another interesting feature is how HAARP can influence the 'auroral electrodynamic circuit', a natural flow of electricity with ranges from 100,000 to 1 million megawatts ("equivalent to 10 to 100 large power plants"). Messing with the electrical properties of the ionosphere means some of this tremendous flow of power can be changed at the flick of a switch. In effect, the natural flow can be modulated to create a gigantic low-frequency radio transmitter.

Which is extremely interesting to military types. Extremely low frequency, or ELF, waves can be used for submarine communications and for probing the planet; because of the way they propagate, HAARP can cover "a significant fraction of the Earth." The document says that the waves can be used for "seabed exploration" and even locating mines underwater, not to mention "underground target detection."


And another..
www.kalamark.com...
In 1994 Raytheon was listed as number 42 on the "Fortune 500" list of companies. Raytheon has thousands of patents, some of which will be valuable in the HAARP project. Twelve patents are the backbone of the HAARP project, and are now buried among the thousands of others held in the name of Raytheon. Bernard J. Eastlund's US Patent #4,686,605, "Method and Apparatus for Altering a Region in the Earth's Atmosphere, Ionosphere and/or Magnetosphere", was sealed for a year under a government secrecy order. The Eastlund ionospheric heater was different: the radio frequency (RF) radiation was concentrated and focused to a point in the ionosphere. This difference throws an unprecedented amount of energy into the ionosphere. The Eastlund device would allow a concentration of one watt per cubic centimetre, compared to others only able to deliver about one millionth of one watt. This huge difference could lift and change the ionosphere in the ways necessary to create futuristic effects described in the patent. According to the patent, the work of Nikola Tesla in the early 1900s formed the basis of the research.

What would this technology be worth to ARCO, the owner of the patents? They could make enormous profits by beaming electrical power, without wires, from a powerhouse in the gas fields to the consumer. For a time, HAARP researchers could not prove that this was one of the intended uses for HAARP. In April 1995, however, Begich found other patents, connected with a 'key personnel' list for APTI. Some of these new APTI patents were indeed a wireless system for sending electrical power. Eastlund's patent said the technology can confuse or completely disrupt airplanes' and missiles' sophisticated guidance systems. Further, this ability to spray large areas of Earth with electromagnetic waves of varying frequencies, and to control changes in those waves, makes it possible to knock out communications on land or sea as well as in the air. The patent said: "Thus, this invention provides the ability to put unprecedented amounts of power in the Earth's atmosphere at strategic locations and to maintain the power injection level, particularly if random pulsing is employed, in a manner far more precise and better controlled than heretofore accomplished by the prior art, particularly by detonation of nuclear devices of various yields at various altitudes... "...it is possible not only to interfere with third party communications but to take advantage of one or more such beams to carry out a communications network even though the rest of the world's communications are disrupted.


The government tried to make weather manipulation an official weapon of war over a decade ago by trying to pass legislation through congress when such weather manipulation had already been outlawed years before. And we are supposed to trust the military that they aren't using this as a weapon (or at least testing it as one)? That's reaching.. See below...

The money for that came from the Defense Advanced Research Projects Agency (DARPA, now under the acronym ARPA). In 1994 the US Air Force revealed its Spacecast 2020 master plan which includes weather control. Scientists have experimented with weather control since the 1940s, but Spacecast 2020 noted that "using environmental modification techniques to destroy, damage or injure another state [is] prohibited". Having said that, the Air Force claimed that advances in technology "compels a re-examination of this sensitive and potentially risky topic". FORTY YEARS OF ZAPPING THE SKY? As far back as 1958, the chief White House adviser on weather modification, Captain Howard T. Orville, said the US defence department was studying "ways to manipulate the charges of the Earth and sky and so affect the weather by using an electronic beam to ionise or de-ionise the atmosphere over a given area. In 1966, Professor Gordon J. F. MacDonald was Associate Director of the Institute of Geophysics and Planetary Physics at the University of California, Los Angeles, was a member of the President's Science Advisory Committee, and later a member of the President's Council on Environmental Quality. He published papers on the use of environmental control technologies for military purposes. MacDonald made a revealing comment: "The key to geophysical warfare is the identification of environmental instabilities to which the addition of a small amount of energy would release vastly greater amounts of energy."


-ChriS


reply posted on 28-8-2008 @ 02:34 PM by snoopyuk
reply to post by LynUK



thanks for posting LynUK,

i started this thread to try to get some earwitness`s to the hum,

do you live in the area in question ??

thanks

snoopyuk


reply posted on 28-8-2008 @ 02:39 PM by snoopyuk
reply to post by LynUK



hi LynUK

i am currently in Lincolnshire,

the incident in question was a great deal further south, however there are other known hums in the Lancashire/Yorkshire border.

snoopyuk



reply posted on 28-8-2008 @ 02:45 PM by dogsounds
reply to post by snoopyuk




I am afraid that I haven't heard our mystery oscillations at all since I promised to record them.

FAIL.

Oh well.


reply posted on 29-8-2008 @ 06:29 AM by snoopyuk
reply to post by hypervigilant



hi there,

would you mind sending my your location please ??? you can do it via the U2U ms system if you wish privacy,.

thanks

snoopyuk ( OP)
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