Is A Bipolar Disorder Diagnosis the Latest Mania?, page
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Topic started on 20-8-2008 @ 10:04 AM by budski
This is an opinion piece which raises some interesting questions:
Has the pharmaceutical industry become the Pied Piper of Hamelin--ridding us of lethal diseases only to turn around and "take" our children?

Would a physician from the 1950s "have identified the frenzy to treat bipolar disorders in infants that developed in twenty-first-century American as a mania?"


In his latest book, Mania: A Short History of Bipolar Disorder (the John Hopkins University Press) David Healy, author of Let Them Eat Prozac, looks at the historic roots of our current "medicalized distress" in which half the population is said to suffer a mental illness at some point in life and babies are diagnosed in utero as bipolar.

Bipolar disorder, once called manic depression, has been embroiled in controversy from its first descriptions in Paris in the 1850s. The pharmaceutical companies and academics behind its current popularity as a "catch-all" disease say it dates back to the ancient Greeks.

But David Healy, professor of psychiatry and the director of the North Wales Department of Psychological Medicine at Cardiff University, is not so sure.

References to the frenzied behavior of mental patients found in Hippocrates' Epidemics books 1 and III, Plato's Phaedrus and other early writings almost certainly referred to infective states and not what we mean by bipolar disorder infective disorders with high fevers, hysteria, postpartum manias, catalepsies and melancholies developing into manias, he writes.

Even if the disorder existed before direct-to-consumer television advertising beamed its warning signs into living rooms, it was rare says Healy. Between 1875 and 1924 only 123 patients from North West Wales were admitted to the asylum in North Wales with what we would today call bipolar disorder from a population of a quarter of a million or 12,500,000 person years.

The discovery of lithium in 1817--so plentiful and inexpensive it was added to soft drinks and beer until 1929--and its value in treating bipolar disorder in the late 1950s, changed the course of psychopharmacology says Healy.

Lithium not only introduced the concept of a drug that could act as a mood stabilizer-- offering actual prophylaxis against a mental disease--it introduced the concept of a randomized controlled trial (RCT) in which a drug's effectiveness is tested against placebo.

Full article

More and more people are becoming concerned about the apparent catch-all diagnoses which has seen depression, bipolar, and ADD/ADHD being diagnosed and treated with drugs far in excess of anything we have seen before.

The WHO that over 25% of people will suffer from mental illness at some point in their lives, whilst other estimates have been put as high as 50%

There is also the conspiracy element here, as drugs for depression and other mental illness have direct links to suicide in some patients - links which have been supressed by the pharmaceutical companies for fear of harming profit margins:
A Swedish writer has accused the National Board of Health and Welfare (NBHW) of covering up evidence suggesting a connection between psychiatric drugs and suicide. Under a recent law, Swedish health-care providers must fill out reports on all suicides committed by patients under their care or within four weeks of a health care visit. The reports are then sent to the NBHW, which compiles and analyzes them.

Recently, the NBHW released the first report analyzing the 367 suicides recorded in 2006. "Not a single word is written about the most compelling fact: Well over 80 percent of persons killing themselves were treated with psychiatric drugs," Janne Larson writes.

According to data received via a Freedom of Information Act request, more than 80 percent of the 367 suicides had been receiving psychiatric medications. More than half of these were receiving antidepressants, while more than 60 percent were receiving either antidepressants or antipsychotics. There is no mention of this either in the NBHW paper or in major Swedish media reports about the health care suicides.

source

Ritalin also came under the spotlight last year, as it was revealed that the NHS in the UK was spending over £1 million PER MONTH on prescriptions for this drug alone - thread here

So is the article right and bipolar is being used as a catch-all diagnosis?

Is it being used as a way of keeping a percentage of the popiulation tranquilised?

Or is simply big pharma protecting its profits by foisting more and more drugs and "studies" onto doctors as a way to increase profits - thread here

One thing is for sure - big pharma cares little or nothing for its "customers" it cares only about increasing profits and making a killing from the latest "wonder drug" which as soon as it is introduced, see's an increase in the diagnosis of the illness it is supposed to help cure.

In the UK we see massive amounts of money being spent on drugs for mental illness without proper diagnosis, whilst life saving or life prolonging drugs are denied to patients on the basis of cost.

Just to be clear on this, I am NOT saying that certain conditions don't exist - I know for a fact they do, having suffered from depression myself.

What I AM saying is that there is always a new wonder drug, which suddenly becomes the saviour of all mankinds ills, whether they be mental or physical - it's pushed onto doctors by big pharma, and then it's pushed onto the patient, who most of the time has little or no idea of what they are taking.

This could lead to massive health problems for the western world in the future, unless we educate people about it now, and put a curb on big pharma.


reply posted on 21-8-2008 @ 04:47 PM by stikkinikki
reply to post by DeadFlagBlues



You bring up valid examples. I agree that their are way too many legal pharmaceutical drugs in our society. They do have their uses and can work wonders when applied correctly. In this debate please avoid putting all doctors and patients under the same umbrella.


reply posted on 21-8-2008 @ 05:01 PM by schrodingers dog
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I was misdiagnosed bipolar once. They gave me nice 200mg Seroquel, which made me bisleepier, bigassier, and bistupider. I'm not joking either.


reply posted on 21-8-2008 @ 05:39 PM by LockwithnoKey
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If we're unable to control our emotions then does that not clarify the need for diagnosis and meds? Unable and unwilling are 2 very different things.

BiPolar is possibly being diagnosed more and more, but just like the argument for autism. Perhaps there is an increase in patients who have it or perhaps the medical community is now more knowledgeable in recognizing the disorders.

To one that has not experienced TRUE BiPolar condition simply CANNOT understand to the degree needed to be sympathetic. It's ok though, if your one of those then consider yourself lucky and leave the meds to the ones that need them.




reply posted on 21-8-2008 @ 05:54 PM by BlackOps719
People chewed Michael Savage to pieces for saying the same things, but what he stated had a lot of truth in it.


Doctors over-prescribe these expensive medications in order to make money from the pharma companies. In order to prescribe said medication, they need a diagnosis. The more vague and uncurable the condition the better for their wallets.

Kids who would have once been considered outspoken or simply hyper active are being diagnosed by the thousands as having ADHD, a disorder which didnt even exist when I was a kid, and that wasnt even very long ago. It seems like every other kid I come across is zombied out on Ritalin, a drug which most skeptics will tell you has affects on the human body that they still arent even sure about.

Bi-polar disorder is a real, actual disease. But I dont believe it is being diagnosed with very much accuracy. There is a serious difference between having basic depression or even manic depression versus being bi-polar, which is a serious and often fatal disorder. True bi-polar people have such severe mood swings that they are accompanied by dimentia and loss of grip on reality. They swing from severe hyper activity and mania to within minutes complete dispair and thoughts of suicide.

Both are the new cash cow for over zealous doctors as well as big pharma companies who are looking to rake in big bucks. It isnt even unheard of for doctors to recieve direct compesnation and gifts for offering a certain medicine enough times (even though it is against the rules it happens a lot)

The people who are suffering are the ones of us paying for private health insurance, not to mention the poor patients who are being placed on power psychotropic personality altering drugs that they really do not need.

[edit on 8/21/08 by BlackOps719]
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