Hi to all. I'm new to this forum but it's been a while already since I found it and started browsing through its pages.
I've found a lot of great, quality threads and posts, but I have also found a lot of speculation on many subjects (of course, that is expected from
themes such as conspiracies). This last thing, while entertaining and thought-provoking, only hurts this important subject. I am referring to the
Have you ever thought why
are you here posting this stuff? I think it's because we have few people outside to which we can talk about this.
Most of them don't care, or don't believe these things. And when speculating with something as outrageous
as "a group of people taking over
the world", sound evidence, undeniable proof
should accompany our claims. Otherwise, this only gets discredited more and more, which may be
what the allegedly Illuminati people want. Don't get me wrong: it's great when some people say "Hey, I believe this or that
because..." but it's not great "Hey, Bush is actually a mouse-like creature, and I have absolutely no proof on why I know this"
Said that, I am
a believer. I had the most amazing experiences in my life with some very strange things, but I have no proof to claim what I
saw or happened to me so I just don't like talking about that. I think every discussion which has no proof or evidence just gets exactly what they,
if indeed exist, want: general discredit about this themes.
Here are some thoughts of mine which I welcome if anyone with real, serious
interest on these things can share his/her opinions:
1) UFO Propaganda: why everyone believes that UFO movies/shows are some Illuminati propaganda to prepare us for an alien invasion? Couldn't it just
be a fascinating subject for mankind not to be alone in the Universe?
What evidence, proof
do you have that this is actually true?
2) Some "researchers" date the Illuminati/NWO begginings a few centuries away. Some trace them back to Babylonia or even beyond. So... how come this
people, over the course of perhaps thousands of years, have never
slipped, haven't had a "renegade", haven't destroyed themselves feuding,
etc.? Don't they have vices, cravings, that can overcome them?
3) We live in a dangerous world. EDTA is a potentially cancerous product, yet you can find it in many cosmetic products. Fluoride is nasty too. I have
personal experiences about EMF/microwaves and I believe they're really nasty too. They seem to induce cancer on many people (but I have no hard proof
so it's just a comment.) Cancer itself is epidemic when it was once a rare disease. Food, the soil where it grows and water are contaminated with
very dangerous chemicals (Hell, it seems they want you to get cancer at any rate!). So how do they manage to get around all this stuff they created?
They don't use cellphones/satellite communications/computers/etc.? They have an Eden-like untainted garden where they grow their food? They take
their own food with them, always? There's no smoke on their venues/offices/whatever? Illuminati girls don't wear makeup?
4) From items 2, 3 I can sadly conclude that, maybe they're not humans, or at least not in the way you and I are. So what... Icke's right? Or maybe
these things aren't true? What proof does Icke have that they're shapeshifting reptiles? What proof or real, sustainable evidence does he have about
the 4th dimension or whatever?
5) The sincerest
evidence I ever found on this subject was Aaron Russo's statement about Nicholas Rockefeller.
Rockefeller Admitted Elite Goal Of Microchipped Population
I believe him because he had the connections, he was dying and maybe wanted to give some truth to the world before going. But again, no proof. No
I believe the're real and screwing the world. But how can we prove it?