Object filmed moving near the moon 19/08/08 multiple witnesses, page 12

reply to post by Matyas

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Well, the geostationary or the geosynchronous satellites are parked too high to be seen from earth (36,000 kilometers) and even if we can see, they will not be moving because they are synchronized with the rotation of the earth...

Granted, the object is not moving in a straight line, but it is not "orbiting"
the moon either - like someone had reported.

Further, in such images of the sky, we will not see the "depth" - meaning, objects that appear close together may actually be far apart. A satellite 250 miles up may appear passing close to the moon which is 240,000 miles away.

reply to post by dj howls

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We need to rule out Jupiter as it was higher up in the constellation Sagittarius (still is) when the moon was rising in the constellation Aquarius on 19th August..

reply to post by watapi

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Exactly. The object moves on, more or less, a straight path/trajectory. This is not indicative of an orbiting body.. And even if it was it would not move this quickly.. There is nothing that massive that is orbiting the moon because it would already be all over the papers..

I worked in munitions for the U.S. Air Force for over 6 years. Most aircraft launched flares from say a C-130 or an F-16 only last a few seconds. Some of the larger, longer-lasting parachuting flares like the LUU-1 or LUU-2 that are launched via an external pod can last as long as half an hour before burning out. But these flares are used to illuminate the ground and the targets on the ground.

There are some other problems with the flare idea.. Some of which are more noteworthy than others.

- These larger parachute flares create a smoke cloud that is very distinct. This flare would have been well-lit from moon in the background. Yet, no smoke-trail from the flare is being illuminated in any way in the video.

- Pilots in the U.S. dropping these flares would be dropping them for training purposes in an authorized range constructed for such a purpose. The Air Force civil engineers will occasionally relocate old trucks, humvees, and other old, warn-out military equipment to be used on these ranges for aircraft training and pilot recertification (it also gives other enlisted troops an opportunity for recertification in their training records like loaders and munitions line-delivery personnel). Military aircraft would not fly over the ocean and fire-off one flare for no apparent reason.

This object couldn't have been some kind of launching rocket either because the object travels downward, not upward.
That's why a couple days ago I posted the possibility of it being a rocket in mid-course flight traveling in the upper atmoshpere prior to dropping off it's payload.. Its one possibility..

THIS is the most recent rocket/missile launch I've seen on the U.S. Air Force Space Command's website..
It was launched August 13th though.. 6 days before the video was taken.

As far as the research I have done, these are the only 2 rockets that were launched on August 18th that I know of.

THIS one from Russia carrying a communications satellite and THIS one which was launched by Iran supposedly carrying a satellite (I think it turned out to be a dummy though).

I guess it COULD have been one of these... You never know. I'm not sure how likely it would be.

The way the object seems to "twinkle" as it disappears at the end of the video looks indicative of earth-lights. This twinkling as it disappears is very similar to what is in these videos when they begin to "fade-out".





-ChriS


[edit on 25-8-2008 by BlasteR]

reply to post by watapi

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I am in agreement with the first two parts, but not the third, and not on technical grounds.

We (generally speaking) have to be careful not to put ourselves in a box. Even though it is true our eyes cannot perceive depth at such distances, we can feel the depth.

I once read an account by a very respected scientist, who while watching the zodiacal light, at once suddenly felt the immensity of the sky. The experience caused his knees to buckle, and sent him to the ground gasping for breath. Quickly enough, the feeling dissipated as his so-called normal senses reasserted themselves.

Herein is a possible explanation for Man's earliest experience of what he has come to call God. And further, herein is an extra sense, often overlooked because it is rare and indescribable. As far as reliability, it stands to be as good, if not better than, eyesight. What other option is there for the blind man but feeling?

If these teens, or young adults, were sharing some kind of feeling, something that cannot be conveyed by a video camera, their feeling is just as valid a valuable piece of information as the video is.

So, lets keep an open mind, and not box ourselves in, so that we may be able to study the event in its entirety.

Some of you who havent seen a red or orange moon must be ALIENS

Im reporting you all to the Earth Defence Council


You guys seriously havent seen an orange moon? Its exceptionally common, and I mean exceptionally, you will see loads of them every year. Its caused by light scattering as it comes through the atmosphere where some of the green blue spectrum is lost, so theres no reason that the moon color is suspicious. I have seen far bigger and closer orange moons than that.

When light (or more specifically, packets of light called photons) from an astronomical object passes through the Earth's atmosphere, it scatters off of particles in the latter. It turns out that these particles like to scatter blue light more than they do red light; so "bluer" photons (those with shorter wavelengths) tend to get scattered, and "redder" photons (those with longer wavelengths) pass through. So, astronomical objects look redder from Earth than they would from space, because the redder wavelengths from the objects penetrate the atmosphere better than the bluer ones. Incidentally, this is why the sky is blue: blue light from the Sun is scattered in all directions on its way to the Earth.

Anyway its very cool footage for sure, no idea what that is.

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