Lol, in the seconf video they keep telling each other to pray.
Why? Lol, there must have been some real freaked out teens.
It's good to see some genuine ufos vids amidsts all the fakes out there.

-Jimmy

I believe they keep telling each other to pray because they are at some type of church camp....at least thats the impression I got.....
and when your a teen at church camp trying hard to fit in, you focus on telling each other to pray so as to not look/seem different IMO....


[edit on 21-8-2008 by theRiverGoddess]

That kid who posted this on Youtube probably thinks you guys are nuts the way you pick apart the video,

Seriously this is one of the best vids I've seen, all the reactions in the background are very interesting, like when one girl says "If it upsets you don't look at it!" That was hilarious!

I wish we could see the other vids the kid said were being shot when he was shooting.
That would be very interesting especially if there was a better camera involved that could zoom.

Originally posted by Pilot
That kid who posted this on Youtube probably thinks you guys are nuts the way you pick apart the video,

Seriously this is one of the best vids I've seen, all the reactions in the background are very interesting, like when one girl says "If it upsets you don't look at it!" That was hilarious!

I wish we could see the other vids the kid said were being shot when he was shooting.
That would be very interesting especially if there was a better camera involved that could zoom.

I think that some people,, who like to consider themselves "Professional ATS debunkers" (I think I've even seen a sig or two with something like that in it) get in such a hurry to be the first ones to get the "debunk" that they attack every angle at once, like a shotgun effect, to cover as many of the different angles at once, so they can be the first to say "I told you so" no matter how ridiculous it seems.
That is the only thing I can think of when some of the most ridiculous claims come out.
I mean who the hell has never seen an orange or red moon? I see one like that at least once a month from my 7th story window.
Now its being called a flare, and the person even has the gumption to call it a flare, declare it debunked and case closed
Some really dont even care if their claim makes any sense or not, its as if theyre in denial, they want so much to believe that its not true and they want so much to swing others over to their way of thinking that they will make some WAY off the wall claims, some of them even more unbelievable than even a UFO.
However, because of the nature of UFO's and other similar topics, skeptics/debunkers are very important to this board and others like it but they need to be responsible and mature.
When they offer their opinion and back it up with decent evidence and then take the time to explain it rationally, then I have no problem with them.
But when they stand up and declare something fake because the moon is orange or show a video that they edited, adding the words, flare, wind and moon and anyone that doesnt agree with them are idiots, then they lose all credibility, at least as far as im concerned.
There have been many times that a person has scrutinized a photo or video and backed it up with very good evidence and had a post officially declared a hoax by the mods.
I think its great when that happens and when a potential hoaxer sees in advance what their hoax will have to go through, they may change their minds and spare themselves the humiliation and a ban from ATS

I'm still undecided on what the objects in this video are but im pretty sure that it isnt an intentional hoax, especially considering the different reactions we hear from the other kids in the background.
Well, just add that one to the every growing list of the un-explained

At approx. 4:30 mark it disappears in Earth's shadow. Easy to ascertain since it is a full Moon. If the object in question can reach earth from the Moon in 10 minutes, that means it is doing at least 702,000 mph.

Sounds about right.

Trajectory indicates mass. No detectable independent illumination within Earth's shadow. Indicative of combustionless propulsion system.

My bet its not one of ours, but hard to tell. We gots some gnarly ships up thar

You can't speed the video up by 50x's to make the object look like a flare.

That's just as bad as if the people who shot the video did the same thing to make jupiter look as if it was moveing slowly across the sky like a huge UFO outside our atmosphere.

There's 2 legitimate videos which show the exact speed of the object. If you are going to make ANY claims you have to use the evidence provided, since it has not been proven that it was tampered with in anyway.

Speeding the film up, or slowing it down is about as good as photoshopping the film, your manipulating it. Your proving nothing with the "flare" video, jubjub.

I mean think about it, if you have to speed the original film up 50 times it's normal speed to get the object to "look" somewhat like a flare, well it's not a flare then on the the original video.

[edit on 22-8-2008 by Nola213]

The evidence must be analyzed in its original form, tampering with it invalidates its "modality".

Great points of view everybody, its all about keeping an open mind, I also wonder about what goes on in a "pro debunker's" mind...
The thought police has won when we don't question and wish that the tiny part of safe "reality" remained the same...

whatever is seen in the video might have been huge...