Some people do have to eat you know. I'm also glad none of you were around during the fur trading days. I have to say that times have changed here in some countries but not for others. I agree that these practices need to change but what more can we do to kill an animal for a meal. We kill it, skin and gut it, and then cook it up. We then cut it, chop it, chew it up and digest it. Either way it becomes food for us. We can't or shouldn't put them asleep because that medicine will end up in our food. Tell a lion not to chase down, claw and bite it's food and eat it alive. It's called the circle of life. It's going to be dead no matter how it gets slaughtered or eaten.

They have done this for thousands of years who are we to judge?
With our fast food,evrything comes to us packaged...
This is how things are done in the real world.
Peace

Spike

Originally posted by Solarskye
Some people do have to eat you know. I'm also glad none of you were around during the fur trading days. I have to say that times have changed here in some countries but not for others. I agree that these practices need to change but what more can we do to kill an animal for a meal. We kill it, skin and gut it, and then cook it up. We then cut it, chop it, chew it up and digest it. Either way it becomes food for us. We can't or shouldn't put them asleep because that medicine will end up in our food. Tell a lion not to chase down, claw and bite it's food and eat it alive. It's called the circle of life. It's going to be dead no matter how it gets slaughtered or eaten.

There is a difference with killing someone and skinning them alive!

A question.
What would you prefer, a quick death or to be skinned alive?

These people disgust me, I would personally try and stop them if I were there, that's how I feel.

And what's this comment about war with china, most people in china have nothing to do with this.

[edit on 20-8-2008 by _Phoenix_]

The reasoning that until we stop killing and slaying one another we cannot start to think about issues of animal cruelty is selfish and unrealistic. If we cannot respect all life on this planet we will never be able to treat each other with decency.

The large human population dictates cruel factory farm conditions because of the demand for meat, the leather used in low end clothing is not from animals killed for that purpose, neither with gelatin and most other animal components used in various products and foods.

And "people eating tasty animals". How played can you get?(lame).

I am starting to notice a pattern with China

Overfishing Whales (or was that japan)

Skinning Animals Alive

I think the biggest problem is the world has gone so many different ways people dont follow anything anymore. Just their own greed. Money Money Money. It will buy you women and happiness...

The more and more i've read on Above top secret today and now this... the more disgusted i am getting with my fellow human.

I read in the news a couple of years ago that one Chinese town had a couple of dogs end upwith rabies, so the police were going around taking ALL the dogs in town away from their owners and beating them to death. People would be walking their dogs outside, and the police would come up to them take thier dog and beat it to death right in front of them. They couldnt even be merciful enough to put a bullet in its head.

Sometimes when we don't understand one's culture, we may find it so taboo. At times, disturbing.

Sure, they may have taken the life of the animal in a more peaceful way. But let's just leave it be.

Last time I checked, America wasn't so innocent.

A decent amount of posting to get through...

First off....

OP. Those are horrible pictures and as an animal lover I find them appauling. The thing is I see some awful issues with some of the posts that have been written here. I am not going to single out, rather I will just make the statements point by point.

1. Do you really think all Chinese people take part in this?

2. Go to war with China? Well I have two comments on this.
a. You're crazy to want to go to war with China over these cruelties when our very own country is guilty of pretty much every atrocity we can think of. We raped in Vietnam, we torture in Abu Ghraib (sp?), we break legs of calfs and leave them immobile for veal. The wild part is alot of this stuff STILL goes on today
b. As a side note, if you think it's a good idea to go to war with China with our forces spread this thin and Force Reshaping and Reduction then let me be the first to move to New Zealand before you start this. The military just kicked 40,000 members out, we are in two wars and prepping for a third in a likely case. Good luck.

3. To some others, do you really think because there is human torture going on that it makes it less significant that animals are tortured?

4. To those who love the above topic...ALF and ELF are full of it. I love love LOVE their ideas but they are pure and simple terrorists. To bomb a place and free all the animals is terrorism. They use fear and punishment to inflict and place their ideas and no offense, but PETA isn't that far behind.

5. To the insensitive folks. Really? Is life not important at all?

Veganism is great but let us not forget it can cause issues. I am not saying let's not do it because that is your choice but the part I despise is when a vegan OR a meat eater thinks they have the world figured out and holds their aire of superiority.

Simply put, if you want to go to war with China over this I highly suggest you start firing inward toward our own lands. It's all around you

With that being said, yes I am highly empathtic to animals. I love them dearly but to hear someone tell the life of my cat is worth more than my wife, bull crap. I am not saying this is said here on ATS, but it has been said before

-Kyo

Exactly, I don't understand that logic.

And neither do I. I think it's awful to hold the belief that animals are not worthy of any real respect and care. My whole point was in my eyes a human's life will be more to me than an animal's. That doesn't however change the fact that these things do occur.

Thanks

-Kyo

Personally, I don't really care if they tazer the animals while they skin them alive since lets face it, PAIN ADDS FLAVOR.

Now, go watch animals eating each other and let me know if its any less cruel. OMG, PETA should protest basic nature. oh no!Yes, go stage a sit-in for a pride of lions, hippies.