How to teach science to the Pope

How to teach science to the Pope

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Brother Guy Consolmagno occupies a small space of heaven. A Jesuit brother and astronomer for the Vatican Observatory, he works at the observatory’s headquarters at the pope’s summer palace in Castel Gandolfo, a 45-minute train ride from Rome.

Castel Gandolfo sits on the high ground of Italy’s Lazio region, perched above the exotic, sapphire-blue volcanic Lake Albano. The view you get is magical. “This is a good place for things like an occultation, like the transit of Venus in 2004,” Consol­magno says. “We observed the comet hitting Jupiter because the first events were visible only from this part of the world.”

Below the observatory’s domed chamber are the offices that make up the rest of the Vatican Observatory. One study has bookshelves filled with hardbound journals all the way to the high ceiling. Consolmagno pulls one off a shelf and reads aloud: “Account of a new telescope by Mr. Isaac Newton.” He shows me, then smiles. “I think he has a future,” he says.

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This is a fascinating article about how the Vatican is showing interest in advancements in science. A far cry from days gone by.

The lessons learned from the trial and condemnation of Galileo in the 1600s have guided an era of scientific caution and hesi¬tancy within the Vatican.

It is a fantastic thing that they are doing, but I have concerns with this.
Are they simply being more open minded or is

The Vatican keeps tabs on science, integrates new research into theology

This way they can control what the world learns and disseminate the information as they see fit. In this day and age where we all have the ability to learn about science, the public still need to be given boundaries as to how much they can learn…..for their own good.

This may seem like paranoid driven opinion, but when you consider many of the worlds top scientists are in the Vatican’s stable it does make you wonder.

Though it is virtually unknown among laypeople, the Pontifical Academy of Sciences is an independent and remarkably influential body within the Holy See. Over the years its membership roster has read like a who’s who of 20th-century scientists (including Max Planck, Niels Bohr, and Erwin Schrödinger, to name a few), and it currently boasts more than 80 international academicians, many of them Nobel laureates and not all of them Catholic — including the playfully irreligious physicist Stephen Hawking.

Who says religion and science don’t mix. They can with the right guidance.


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Something about this article has been bugging me and I just had to expres it.

A pope, more than anyone else, knows the exact reason for the Pontifical Academy of Sciences. In 1992 John Paul II told the members that “the purpose of your academy is precisely to discern and to make known, in the present state of science and within its proper limits, what can be regarded as an acquired truth or at least as enjoying such a degree of probability that it would be imprudent and unreasonable to reject it.” In the pope’s eyes, the academy is an instrument that teases scientific fact from fiction.

On the surface this seems ok but the part that stood out for me was

and within its proper limits

What exactly are the 'proper limits' and who makes that determination?

Side note to MODS. Perhaps this might be better suited to CiR?

news.yahoo.com...

Pope sees physicist Hawking at evolution gathering

Fri Oct 31, 1:52 pm ET

VATICAN CITY (Reuters) – Pope Benedict told a gathering of scientists including the British cosmologist Stephen Hawking on Friday that there was no contradiction between believing in God and empirical science.

The Hawk will get Galileo treatment from the plasma cosmologists
in the Tesla Court.

The Pope is master of another domain and earthly squabbles are not
his domain any more.


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So does all this mean that science is winning over religeon after all these years or s religeon merely becomng more liberal and understanding?

It seems more and more these days that in order to gain and maintain any kind of a followng the religeon of the word have become more open to new ideas...even aliens and god forbid (so to speak) evolution.

The masters of science.. they will hardly tell us or the pope or
Stephen Hawking.

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Produce date 1943... coil spools are from the 30s.

An attempt at science discovery.. mostly from Bill Lyne's book
which they say under Further reading, however Lyne was the first
to attempt to reconstruct the Dynamic Theory of Gravity of Tesla.
Which may be scientific laws by now like Maxwell laws but we
don't know about them still.
Some info
Lyne might call it copy control gone wild with a taste of dis info added.
(such as quaternion ...)

ED: What is interesting is we are instructed by Homer Simpson
and how curved space works in one of his cartoons.
Illuminati control never stops.


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