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Being a Republican or Democrat is irrelevant.

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posted on Aug, 21 2008 @ 03:55 PM
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Originally posted by KATSUO

I COMPLETELY Agree.. Ive said this for years...

this is no different than the Bloods and the Crips..

they are only a year or 2 aways from throwing up gang signs with pasty
white manicured hands..


why wait?














posted on Aug, 21 2008 @ 04:04 PM
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I realize that both candidates are of "the system" and that for real change, we need someone who will not work for "the system" (or the NWO or whatever). I've been pulling for Obama since 2006, but it's become obvious that he will be another president working for the system.

That disappoints me a little bit, but there are other important issues in life. For example, I'm extremely liberal when it comes to social issues, and I want Obama to appoint liberal judges to the supreme court. I don't want Roe v. Wade to be overturned, and I want gay marriage legalized. That just for starters. Clearly, Obama is the candidate for those issues. Not that gay marriage will be legalized any time soon at the federal level, but at least it won't be outlawed forever.

I'm not trying to bait those who feel differently (which is fine with me as long as you're nice about it!), I'm just using examples to show that with certain issues, Repub and Dem ARE relevant. Maybe not for the big picture, but there is more to life than the big picture.



posted on Aug, 21 2008 @ 04:27 PM
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I believe the OP is headed in the right direction, though I might not be sold on the whole NWO angle. I do believe however that the left and the right are the same entity. If i told you to pick my left or my right hand, and I would use that hand to get something done like hammer a nail, it wouldn't matter as you would still be picking me to hammer the nail. You catch my drift.

It is imperative that we get the country back on track, and It's actually very very very simple to do. So simple in fact that we could be the undisputed Super Power of the world (again) in every way imaginable by the end of 2010. Leader in humanitarian efforts, military, economy (completely stable and impervious to hyper inflation), culture, and agriculture. In 2 years. And it would be built to last for centuries.

Everyone wants to support new and inventive government branches and welfare programs: I.E. health care, and tax incentives, tax rebates, more departments and the like to get the country on track. This is akin to moving forward by walking backwards. As well as being unneeded and burdensome.


The steps are really quite simple and don't ask much of the people except that they really really push for these simple things.

Step 1) Withdraw from the UN (immediately with no negotiations)

Step 2) Abolish the Federal Reserve ( on the same day as withdrawing from the UN, preferably tomorrow)

Step 3) No income tax at all it's unneeded. Excise taxes on goods and services stand

Step 4) gold and silver backed currency on same day as abolishment of federal reserve.

Step 5) Abolish NAFTA on the same day as withdrawing from the UN.

Step 6) Agriculture, Agriculture Agriculture! ( No Fallow Fields Policy, all fields across the US need to run at 100% 24 7) No bio-fuel, food only)

Step 7 ) 10% of the military budget is reallocated to a new division called the Agricultural division. This division will have the prestige and honor only rivaled by the USMC. It is a division to help Farmers across the country run their fields at 100% all the time.

Step 8) Export food as our main source of commerce. (All food exported has to be paid for in full with gold (oil can be substituted once export quota has been met.) Our humanitarian efforts to starving 3rd worlds will stand though. Absolutely no trading of any kind with any communist, socialist, Fascist, dictator, or despotic regimes. Even if we put them in power!

Step 9) Oil companies get incentive to keep nearly all domestic oil production here in America. (we currently export nearly all of our domestic supply) This will tide us untill we can get some lasting alternative power infastructure in place.

Step 10) No more Foreign Wars ever! ( we won't need them with our Power house agriculture fueling our economy)

Step 10) All Military is relocated and placed on both the south and the north border. Military also does humanitarian efforts to rebuild and help 3rd world and other places under the ravages of disaster. As well as our own country first and foremost.

Step 11) Isolationism! (sorry guys, but we are free over here and plan to keep it that way.

Step 12) Government education system is dropped. (This one is harsh but Government Education is a terrible terrible thing, Let the states and the people decide how to educate their kids) Government standards would still exist though and mandatory yearly classes to be learned from 1st grade - P.H.D.: Constitution, Reading, Writing, Math, Public Speaking, Gun Safety, And Self defense.

Step 13) Anyone who tries to oppose us on these fronts, (and it will most definitely will meet resistance from other countrys) will have to weigh their choices in retaliating very carefully, as we will make a very public, very transparent statement to the world that, "We are a free people with a free government, and any resistance setting against any of our values, our countrymen, and way of life will be met with a world ending Nuclear Strike.


Thats how we can do it.



posted on Aug, 21 2008 @ 04:40 PM
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And I take it the whole fuss between the two that are as old as our country, and for sake of just one example, the 2000 election where all hell broke loose and claims of stolen elections and whatnot, is completely staged by the NWO. Right. Ya know some people take Alex Jones fear mongering alittle too seriously...

infowars-shop.stores.yahoo.net...


I stress that anyone who sells product while trying to "wake up the sheep" to reality, is up to no good. I like to think of it this way. If there's really such an order out there that is every bit as bad as people claim they are, Alex Jones would have been killed years ago. Oh but apparently regardless of how bad to the bone they are, they're scared to off anyone in the public eye because that would wake people up. Right.

I take it after 6 billion people are enslaved to the NWO, they'll just stand by and take it up the butt because afterall, it's only 6 billion of us and a few of them with hired guns. I mean, no one's ever died in any wars for their countries. No one ever walked in the line of fire in insane civil wars during the 1860's where people just lined up in rows face to face, and fired their guns til one side or the other all died or ran for their lives. The scots were too scared to fight the british. No one challenged the Romans and died to try to keep their land free.

No one was crazy enough to run through machine gun fire during WW2. No one answered the call during time of war by their own choice. We're all scared of dying. No one will stand up to a bunch of old pansies and their cronies for an ideal of freedom. We'll all be enslaved sheep. We'll work our butts off to make others rich because hey, 100 billion dollars by slavery is better than 100 million by your own deeds. Gotta have those 20 1 billion dollar houses and those 20 100 million dollar boats and 10 thousand dollar meals every night. Gotta live like a God, right?

And how does all of that happen? By abolishing rights of people. And those rights can't be taken back, oh no. It's impossible, once instated, to take back your freedoms. You cannot fight for freedom twice. You're only allowed to fight for it once, then write your laws of your land, enforce them, and if they're ever taken away, it's game over. You're screwed. The NWO wins. Right.



I'd really like to see someone try to pull that off. It's assuming that different races of people over the entire world could actually come together and agree on sharing power. People have failed at it for thousands of years, and they'll continue failing at it til the end of time entirely because of different belief systems. But keep on believing in the NWO if you want. I don't deny the possibility that a group exists that desire world power. But they aren't ever going to pull it off. There's just too many people in this world that will die for their beliefs if they have to, and that alone always spoils the plans of all Dr Evil wannabes out there.



posted on Aug, 21 2008 @ 04:43 PM
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I've told numerous individuals this:

It doesn't matter anymore if you're a Republican or Democrat. Both parties are represented by scum.


It's all about one government and power....



posted on Aug, 21 2008 @ 05:14 PM
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Breakfast at Owls Nest Camp, Bohemian Grove, July 23, 1967


Breakfast at Owls Nest Camp, Bohemian Grove, July 23, 1967. Around the table, left to right: Preston Hotchkis, California Governor Ronald W. Reagan, Harvey Hancock (standing), Vice President Richard M. Nixon, Glenn Seaborg, Jack Sparks, (unidentified individual), (unidentified individual), and Edwin Pauley. Courtesy of Edward W. Carter (deceased).


Our presidents have always been hand picked long before they run, there are no battles, no struggle that is not a show or melody which plucks the lute strings of the American heart




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