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God can make better decisions than you

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posted on Mar, 16 2004 @ 06:43 PM
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I looked over a few posts and noticed people saying "How can God decide what's right for you? That's a decision you have to make." How can anyone hold this viewpoint? If God created everyone and everything, he knows EXACTLY what the right decision is, and his judgement is way better than yours. You should base your moral on what Jesus did and the ten commandments, because they are infinitly more informed sources than you.




posted on Mar, 16 2004 @ 06:45 PM
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If God created everyone and everything, he knows EXACTLY what the right decision is, and his judgement is way better than yours.


If his judgement is so good why did he create us so #ed up? If he knows everything he knew what he was doing



posted on Mar, 16 2004 @ 06:46 PM
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its pretty hard to do God's teachings ALL of the time... try it and see how many times u fail...

remember Jesus NEVER said it would be easy. He ONLY said it would be worth it...




posted on Mar, 16 2004 @ 06:48 PM
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Originally posted by Amuk



If God created everyone and everything, he knows EXACTLY what the right decision is, and his judgement is way better than yours.


If his judgement is so good why did he create us so #ed up? If he knows everything he knew what he was doing


How did he screw us up? Giving us freewill? I'd rather be alive, free, and unhappy than a zombie.



posted on Mar, 16 2004 @ 06:49 PM
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God does NOT make us all messed up... it is our FREE WILL that messes up this world...

God was nice enough to give you FREEDOM and choose right/wrong and we usualy choose WRONG cuz it is humanly pleasing not spiritually pleasing...




posted on Mar, 16 2004 @ 06:49 PM
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Originally posted by AttackHippo

Originally posted by Amuk



If God created everyone and everything, he knows EXACTLY what the right decision is, and his judgement is way better than yours.


If his judgement is so good why did he create us so #ed up? If he knows everything he knew what he was doing


How did he screw us up? Giving us freewill? I'd rather be alive, free, and unhappy than a zombie.


If perfect, how can it screw up?



posted on Mar, 16 2004 @ 06:50 PM
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Originally posted by they see ALL
its pretty hard to do God's teachings ALL of the time... try it and see how many times u fail...

remember Jesus NEVER said it would be easy. He ONLY said it would be worth it...



You don't have to be perfect. God's mercy is a GIFT. Anybody can take it, no matter how much wrong you've done. All you have to do is ask.



posted on Mar, 16 2004 @ 06:55 PM
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SpittinCobra, WE WERE CREATED PERFECT. We screwed it up. When the friut was eaten in the Garden of Eden we chose our own fate.(Well, I guess Adam and Eve did)
We used our freedom that God gave us and disobeyed him.



posted on Mar, 16 2004 @ 06:57 PM
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Originally posted by AttackHippo
SpittinCobra, WE WERE CREATED PERFECT. We screwed it up. When the friut was eaten in the Garden of Eden we chose our own fate.(Well, I guess Adam and Eve did)
We used our freedom that God gave us and disobeyed him.


Being perfect, God would have know we would have eaten the apple. period, if all knowing means, having all knowlage. he would have know.



posted on Mar, 16 2004 @ 07:06 PM
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he gave us free will people so we could learn from our mistakes



posted on Mar, 16 2004 @ 07:11 PM
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His plan wasn't for us to be perfect. If that was the case, there would have been no apple to eat. We were created to glorify him in all that we do. Without freewill and mistakes, how can we truly appreciate his love and mercy? Without full appreciation, how can we fully glorify him?



posted on Mar, 16 2004 @ 07:16 PM
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Originally posted by SpittinCobra

Being perfect, God would have know we would have eaten the apple. period, if all knowing means, having all knowlage. he would have know.

I've tried to explain this point before, but there are none so blind as those who will not see. The fact that God is supposed to be the Alpha and Omega, omnipotent, omnipresent, omniscient, and infinite, means that nothing ever has or ever will happen that God was not aware of before hand. It means that before God created the Garden and put the "Tree" in it, God knew that Eve would eat it's "fruit" and share it with Adam. God knew that placing the tree in the garden, would result in the fall of man. God also knew that It would condemn a majority of mankind to eternal damnation in Hell, before any of us were created. And not only that, but It also knew who would be condemned and who would not. If you deny that any of these points are true then you must also concede that God is not the all-knowing, all-powerful, all-present, infinite being that the Bible claims. That would call into question the validity of the rest of the Bible, which is why most people usually prefer to ignore those points.



posted on Mar, 16 2004 @ 07:17 PM
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GOD is all knowing, but he can not know what a "free willed being" will do in every situation because "every" situation has not happened yet. GOD needs us to learn from. We gain knowledge and learn, therefore he gains knowledge and learns. But GOD knows all the answers to the questions that are outside of our capability to reach. IE is there life on other planets, what is at the end, what happens when an animal dies, what happens when a human dies, are there souls, is there a unifiying theory, is it possible for a human to create artificial gravity etc.

But since man is a free willed being, GOD can not know ahead of time what choices humans will make. So he learns how we handle challenges and the decisions that we make, whether or not we overcome them etc. Based on that, IMO, GOD re-evalueates mankinds existence. IF GOD wants to "get rid" of us, then he merely makes an asteroid to come in line with Earth's orbit and bingo, no more population. Unless of course the smart humans that we are decide to pull it together and save our butts somehow. Which would show a redeeming quality to GOD and maybe allows us to divert our own extinction.

Just my thoughts.

But we reap what we sowe. So to speak



posted on Mar, 16 2004 @ 07:25 PM
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god gave us free will to see if we would choose the things of this world rather than give our love to him
god has everything
the only thing he doesnt have is our love
he is waiting for us to offer our love to him
only then will you here or feel his divine response
in the silent cave of your heart offer him your love



posted on Mar, 16 2004 @ 07:25 PM
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Originally posted by robertfenix
GOD is all knowing, but he can not know what a "free willed being" will do in every situation because "every" situation has not happened yet. GOD needs us to learn from. We gain knowledge and learn, therefore he gains knowledge and learns. But GOD knows all the answers to the questions that are outside of our capability to reach. IE is there life on other planets, what is at the end, what happens when an animal dies, what happens when a human dies, are there souls, is there a unifiying theory, is it possible for a human to create artificial gravity etc.

But since man is a free willed being, GOD can not know ahead of time what choices humans will make. So he learns how we handle challenges and the decisions that we make, whether or not we overcome them etc. Based on that, IMO, GOD re-evalueates mankinds existence. IF GOD wants to "get rid" of us, then he merely makes an asteroid to come in line with Earth's orbit and bingo, no more population. Unless of course the smart humans that we are decide to pull it together and save our butts somehow. Which would show a redeeming quality to GOD and maybe allows us to divert our own extinction.

Just my thoughts.

But we reap what we sowe. So to speak


By saying that God cannot know what choices we will make, you have placed limitations on God's ability to be all-knowing. You cannot limit a limitless God, that is a complete contradiction.



posted on Mar, 16 2004 @ 07:26 PM
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Originally posted by AttackHippo
You should base your moral on what Jesus did and the ten commandments, because they are infinitly more informed sources than you.


Oh yea well here's my preacher and what he has to say about the 10 commandments.

files.toshfamily.info...

Warning the File above is not edited for quality purposes and does contain some language unsuitable for narrowminded people as well as people with sense of humor.



Falcon


And by the way God is all knowing, all wise, all powerfull, and somehow cant handle money



posted on Mar, 16 2004 @ 07:30 PM
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god knows that all can be redeemed
it might just take a million life times
that is the hell that you create not else

imagine having to live a million life times
that is hell

in the glare of the light i see a strange kinda sight of cages joined to form a star each person cant go very far all tied to there things they are netted by there strings
free to flutter in memorys of there wasted wings



posted on Mar, 16 2004 @ 07:34 PM
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Originally posted by watcheroftheskies
god knows that all can be redeemed
it might just take a million life times
that is the hell that you create not else

imagine having to live a million life times
that is hell

in the glare of the light i see a strange kinda sight of cages joined to form a star each person cant go very far all tied to there things they are netted by there strings
free to flutter in memorys of there wasted wings


An intresting way of looking at it, but all it takes is single prayer to redeem yourself of ANYTHING AT ALL.



posted on Mar, 16 2004 @ 07:35 PM
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Originally posted by Amuk

If his judgement is so good why did he create us so #ed up? If he knows everything he knew what he was doing


I second this. Apparently "god" didn't make a good decision when he gave us free will, and why would he kill off about 2/3 of humanity in an apocolypse if he didn't feel that he made a bad decision? Maybe he makes better decisions than us, but his decision-making skills seem to need a bit of work still.



posted on Mar, 16 2004 @ 07:43 PM
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Originally posted by jezebel


By saying that God cannot know what choices we will make, you have placed limitations on God's ability to be all-knowing. You cannot limit a limitless God, that is a complete contradiction.


We were created to glorify God. His plan for us was for us to fall into sin. How can we fully appreciate everything God does unless we know hardship? How can we glorify God without fully appreciating him?



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