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Shameful lies,propaganda and coverup by HRW of Genocide in ossetia exposed

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posted on Aug, 19 2008 @ 07:47 AM
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The South Ossetians claim 1,400 dead, thus far, most of them victims of the Georgian assault on Tskhinvali, and Vladimir Putin went so far as to accuse the Georgians of launching a "genocide." According to the BBC, however, "Russia failed to back up its claims of Georgian atrocities." Not that the West is all that interested in airing the evidence. As Variety put it in a piece on how this war is being reported,

"Coverage in the U.S. and Europe is leaning heavily toward reports on the Georgian casualties of Russian bombing over the weekend. Few details are being given about the thousands said to have been killed when Georgia attacked Tskhinvali, the capital of South Ossetia, on Thursday and Friday."

The blatant media bias displayed by the "mainstream" news organizations is more than matched by the shameful cover-up of Georgian atrocities by the mainline "human rights" organizations, first and foremost Human Rights Watch. In the most brazen display of willful ignorance since Walter Duranty overlooked the Soviet gulags, HRW spokeswoman Anna Neistat told the Guardian that Ossetian claims of Georgian atrocities were "suspicious"
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"The figure of 2,000 people killed is very doubtful. Our findings so far do not in any way confirm the Russian statistics. On the contrary, they suggest the numbers are exaggerated."

Neistat avers that no more than 44 were killed and around 200 were wounded in the Georgian attack on Tskhinvali. Perhaps she should talk to International Red Cross spokeswoman Anna Nelson, who reports area hospitals "overflowing" with the dead and the wounded.
antiwar.com...


and yes on more on HRW propagnada, look at what it does , claims it was stated by a doctor(whose identity they claim is secret and cannot be disclosed) :


HRW called the Russian death toll figure of 2,000 unfounded, citing a doctor who said that between August 6 to 12 the hospital treated 273 wounded, more military than civilian. The doctor also said that 44 bodies had been brought to the hospital since the fighting began, both military and civilian. According to HRW, "the doctor was adamant that the majority of people killed in the city had been brought to the hospital before being buried"




and as usual , the western media and HRW claims are flimsy at best , as they do not disclose the identity of so called alleged doctor

which , seems that HRW is spewinf propaganda , like other western media outlets , which are spewing one sided propaganda in favour of WEst

here are some eyewitness testimonies :


Fleeing resident Lyudmila Ostayeva, 50, told AP news agency: "I saw bodies lying on the streets, around ruined buildings, in cars. It's impossible to count them now. There is hardly a single building left undamaged." International Red Cross spokeswoman Anna Nelson said it had received reports that hospitals in Tskhinvali were "overflowing" with casualties.
news.bbc.co.uk...

bodies lying around buildings as witnesses stated and Red Cross and UNO have different things to say , rather than HRW version , which does not even name the alleged doctor

and several others , but HRW and other groups fail to provide proof for the flimsy claims they make ....

they have not named the alleged doctor firstly, on whose basis they make

also, heres a link showing the extensive damage to South Ossetian cities :

in.youtube.com...



Refugees 'escape horror' of South Ossetia battle

Posted Mon Aug 11, 2008 12:40pm AEST
Updated Mon Aug 11, 2008 2:27pm AEST
A South Ossetian woman cries as a girl sleeps on her lap

Russia's Education Minister says authorities will "look for children and people who are hiding in basements" (AFP: Natalia Kolesnikova)

* Related Link: Background: South Ossetia and Abkhazia

A 40-year-old woman stands in the middle of a footpath and bursts into tears after arriving with a convoy of refugees in the embattled Georgian enclave of South Ossetia.

"When the Russians arrived, we were so happy, and after they bombed them [the Georgians]," said the woman called Meri, referring to the Russian assault and air raids on Georgia that forced Tbilisi to pull back its troops from South Ossetia.

She arrived at Java, about 20 kilometres from the main city of Tskhinvali, with a group of refugees, mostly women, escorted by Russian soldiers.

They escaped from the "horror", the one word they all used to describe the scenes of attacks by Georgian troops, battling against Russian and Ossetian rebel forces over the past three days.

One woman told how a family of four including two children tried to flee from a Georgian tank but it "fired on their car and they were all burned" to death, said Angela, who like all the refugees only gave her first name.

In another incident, a woman eight months pregnant and two family members fleeing from the city under attack were hit by tank fire and "nothing remained of them," Angela said.

She saw the Georgian tanks roll into Tskhinvali, the soldiers shouting "Hail Saakashvili," who is the president of Georgia.

"They destroyed the city," added Inna, 33, who said she could not understand how the Georgian troops "could do that to civilians."

"You see your friend's home burning and there's nothing you can do. You just watch and cry, it's a genocide," Inna said.

An old woman among the refugees said all she had left was the dress she was wearing.

"My house is destroyed," she said.

At Java, a refugee camp of tents is being set up in a stadium by the Russian Ministry of Emergency Services, Education Minister Zamira Giova said.
www.abc.net.au...


look at what eye witnesses of the geniocide are saying and yet we have have organzations like HRW pulling out stupid claims that they cannot even support

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posted on Aug, 19 2008 @ 08:56 AM
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I myself , am amazed by the nonsense that Western media outlets are blithering about Russia ....

amazing that HRW is trying to twist facts , its disgusting ...



posted on Aug, 19 2008 @ 09:03 AM
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One of the issues that strike me the most is actually the lack of information coming from Ossetia, so far the most I have heard was that the death stands between 100 and 200.

But then again other reports said 44.

While the media seems to focus most on Georgia and showing pictures of woman and children crying and in distress.

I disapprove of the death in either country be Georgia or Ossetia.

But I am more angry of the way that the media is playing the death toll and how bias it shows the support of our pay by the Georgia government to McCain side of the story.

If we remember how Iraq death toll was taken care that should be a reminder of the deception that plays a role depending who is supporting what.

[edit on 19-8-2008 by marg6043]



posted on Aug, 19 2008 @ 09:08 AM
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Originally posted by marg6043
One of the issues that strike me the most is actually the lack of information coming from Ossetia, so far the most I have heard was that the death stands between 100 and 200.

But then again other reports said 44.

While the media seems to focus most on Georgia and showing pictures of woman and children crying and in distress.

I disapprove of the death in either country be Georgia or Ossetia.

But I am more angry of the way that the media is playing the death toll and how bias it shows the support of our pay by the Georgia government to McCain side of the story.

If we remember how Iraq was death toll was taken care that should be a reminder of the deception that plays a role depending who is supporting what.





One of the issues that strike me the most is actually the lack of information coming from Ossetia, so far the most I have heard was that the death stands between 100 and 200.


the death toll is much more than that, most eyewitness testimonies seem to show ....

the South ossetian militia/independents/irregulars fighting the Georgian forces have stated a minumum toll of 500 + to 3000 max ...

South ossetian govt states 1500-2000 .....
many people succumbed to injuries and as per orthodox christian customs and would be buried by now

the georgian military was using some preety powerful anti-personnel weapons against civilains



One woman told how a family of four including two children tried to flee from a Georgian tank but it "fired on their car and they were all burned" to death, said Angela, who like all the refugees only gave her first name.

In another incident, a woman eight months pregnant and two family members fleeing from the city under attack were hit by tank fire and "nothing remained of them," Angela said.





But then again other reports said 44.


the only report that makes such a stupid claim is HRW , with no evidence or flimsy arguements at best .....

even Red Cross and UNO have given figures of 300-700 dead and thousands wounded and missing




If we remember how Iraq death toll was taken care that should be a reminder of the deception that plays a role depending who is supporting what.

agreed and most iraqis would agree with you , and yes there are thousands of Ossetian refugees testimonies of a full scale genocide by Georigan forces , to which Western media has turned 'deaf' to

check this out , a testimony by Christian priest who witnessed the killing and raping of children by Georgian forces
uk.youtube.com...

www.abovetopsecret.com...

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posted on Aug, 20 2008 @ 02:07 AM
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Not to add there is camera footage to ''back up'' the claims of the testimonies of tanks running over people.

Of course people can still say it's fake but I am less likely to make such claims due to the portrayal of it all, compared to the Georgian footage of some crying guy who was then spotted in multiple scenes lol.



posted on Sep, 4 2008 @ 10:46 AM
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If you go to HRW page here :

www.hrw.org...

They say :



In August, Human Rights Watch documented Russia’s use of several types of cluster munitions, both air- and ground-launched, in a number of locations in Georgia’s Gori district, causing 11 civilian deaths and wounding dozens more. Russia continues to deny using cluster munitions.

“Russia has yet to own up to using cluster munitions and the resulting civilian casualties,” said Garlasco.


Because of their evidence of Russian Cluster bombs as seen here :



From their page : hrw.org...

A tube launched rocket type device.

When you look at an actual RBK 250 , a bomb type device dropped from an aircraft which is about 7 feet tall ( the bomb on the right ).



You'll notice the evident dissimilarities .

So, what agenda does HRW have . Who is their expert that mis defined this rocket to be a RBK 250 bomb ?

One Marc Garlasco


Garlasco served for seven years as a senior analyst in The Pentagon where he was Chief of High Value Targeting during the Iraq War in 2003.


en.wikipedia.org...


Before coming to HRW, Marc spent seven years in the Pentagon as a senior intelligence analyst covering Iraq. His last position there was chief of high-value targeting during the Iraq War in 2003. Marc was on the Operation Desert Fox (Iraq) Battle Damage Assessment team in 1998, led a Pentagon Battle Damage Assessment team to Kosovo in 1999, and recommended thousands of aimpoints on hundreds of targets during operations in Iraq and Serbia. He also participated in over 50 interrogations as a subject matter expert.


www.motherjones.com...

More here : www.moonofalabama.org...



[edit on 4-9-2008 by Gun Totin Gerbil]



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