Uncensored NASA Moon Images!!

reply to post by thrashee

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A belief in alien life and the structures on the moon are almost certainly not connected. We may have built them long ago. It may be that we have are history completely wrong. Maybe we're not the first civilisation on the planet. To say that because there are objects that look like buildings on the moon is somehow providing proof of alien life is tenuous to say the least.

reply to post by Mintwithahole.

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I totally agree with you, although I'm not sure why you're telling me this

It's funny how long this conversation could go on about something being natural or not, but until one of us becomes an astronaut, gets chosen to be the next person to walk on the moon, then sneaks away to go sightseeing and get a picture of ourselves standing alongside an anomaly, everyone will remain firm on their beliefs. Even though I have a feeling even THEN, it would still be called a fake. I for one would have to think something is going on up there! Whether it's the U.S., Russia, aliens, who knows, but it's too big an asset to just let sit there. Especially since we've had the ability to go there for 50 years.

That aside, this thing looks as if it's floating over a crater, and there is also what looks like a shiny object on the side too. Must be a natural floating rock!



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reply to post by thrashee

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You seem to be stressing the point that you would expect an astronaut who believes in aliens, and is willing to openly talk about, to also talk freely about what he did, or didn't, see on the moon. It seems to me that NASA cannot censor an astronauts beliefs but they can stop him speaking about what he may have seen while working for them. I hope you understand my point?

reply to post by Mintwithahole.

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Astronauts have seen many things not acknowledged by NASA. Cooper saw UFO's land in front of running film cameras.

Mitchell knows impeccable people telling him of their sightings, encounters and direct knowledge.

The Apollo 11 crew saw UFO's when leaving Earth and on the way. (Some think that Armstrong, being an honest man could not lie to us, so recluses himself.)

Another Apollo crew (un-released ident of wich) got film of a UFO.

Pilots, Scientists and thousands of other military, government and public servants swear and sign documents to the effect. Who are we to question them if they risk everything dear to tell us the truth?

Do the work, read the FOIA documents, listen to them directly, or our ignorance will be exposed whenever we open our mouth or type a doubt.

ZG

reply to post by ZeroGhost

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I believe the Apollo crew who filmed a UFO was Apollo 11 . Buss Aldrin described it as looking like a coke can with a pencil sticking out of it.

I'll just make my usual comment and leave, since I learned quite a while ago that hanging around these kinds of threads is pointless, since they're nothing but church meetings.

Since determining what is "obviously" artificial and what is not in any of these blurry, heavily shadowed images is clearly subjective and therefore pointless to debate, is there anything else... anything at all... besides the images, that verify the claims of artificiality?

I didn't think so. See ya!

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reply to post by AntisepticSkeptic

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well maybe they havent said anything about structures on the moon because as soon as they mentioned seeing UFO's from that moment their reputation was shot. People just marked them as crazies to adding any more to their story would just muddy their reputations more and be open to more riddicule

already being remembered as nutty ufo seeing astro to then add ontop of that seing bulidng on the moon i think you can count that as career suicide in the eyes of their peers and most of the hard core debunkers

or maybe some of these all american heroes still have some loyalty to the fact that the good old US or at the time the USSR had build something up there and they are not sharing for the good old reson of national security

im not saying there alien structures up there or anything else for that matter but im giving a different point of view on it

as for denying they saw anything people deny they work on some of the more secret applications of the governments but they do

there is more than meets the eye to do with space but i think its more to do with whos holding all the cards up there in regard to earth bound governments than aliens living or ancient

i think the most concerning thing about NASA is that for such a high profile and once highly funded organisation contiual lack of ability to back up data that it gathers and lose very important scientific information all the time (applo tapes and many others) and also the lack of care of some of the original moon pictures (tears folds and bad storage)
i mean if this was a corperate research and developemt department some people would of been held accountable along time ago for such carlessness and i think as a public funded organsiation as it stated i think that they should of been held accountable long before now


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sorry getting tired typings gettnig worse if thats possible

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reply to post by Mintwithahole.

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If you saw the BBC documentary last year that caught Buzz saying the guys watched a UFO for some time, then you saw the video they edited in of a green glowing two segmented structured "thing". The subtext in the video referenced it as filmed by another "unspecified" Apollo crew.

ZG

reply to post by ZeroGhost

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There are so many rumours, and counter rumours, going around the web that I doubt we'll ever truly know what was going on when the astronauts where on the moon. NASA scientist Farouk El Baz in an interview for Saga magazine said quite plainly that not all discoveries made on the moon have been disclosed...One wonders what they are keeping from us.

Wonder, or Wonder? I agree. Until acknowledged we cannot know for sure if there is really pre-civ moon habs remnants, a true gas crisis or a real brain in the presidents head.

Heisenberg was right.

We have to keep thinking ourselves though. As soon as you let someone else do that for you you end up with.....

OH crap!, you end up with governments and global corporate consumerist slave drivers like we all got! Moan....

ZG

Yes, it was all done on board.

This image shows a diagram of the system used.



I know that I have seen a page with a good description of the system, but I don't remember where, this was the fast I could get.

They're certainly wonderful pictures either way! I always love photos of the lunar surface, doctored or not. But I wouldn't say I see anything convincing in these. Definately "anomalies" geographically. Though the OP didn't seem to suggest any sort of artificial design a lot of the responses did. I want to believe that there's structures and creatures roaming around on the moon but I have yet to see anything really conclusive. Blasted socially awkward aliens!

Since these are Lunar Orbiter images we are looking at... please identify the Rover that is leaving these 'rover tracks'

Thanks

What do you MEAN you see nothing but ROCKS



Smart One Impact plume

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reply to post by AntisepticSkeptic

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*To any moderators, if you want me to remove this post, I will do so immediately, as I know this is off the direct topic (even though it directly relates to the behaviors shown in this thread) and is heated. ATS is a forum for civility and exploring possibilities, not nagging the people who don't get it, but I feel this does need to be said, or I can move this to a seperate thread if you prefer. Please U2U me if there are any issues or if you have a better way to express this. Thank you*

I just wish you could show some more respect to the people on ATS who actually work hard and try to present unbiased yet certainly questionable evidence on these threads. They are MEANT to be QUESTIONED. To be analyzed and studied, so you can come up with your own take on these.

Insulting professionals (of whom I consider Mike to belong to) simply because you behave in a closed minded manner is counterproductive and intellectually destructive. You don't care. Take your hate and sit on it why don't you? I am a skeptic of your ability to rationally and intelligently discuss topics without letting your bad attitude and ego get in the way.

Children insult people they don't agree with, and cannot or will not make an attempt to provide suitable alternatives to the information presented.
Information you refuse to accept is NOT AN INSULT TO YOUR INTELLIGENCE.

You are already distracting many with your closed minded refusals to even look at the possibilities. Why do you need Mike to be wrong? Why do you have this deep desire to insult things you can't agree with? Getting angry does not prove your intelligence, nor does it discredit the people you are trying to silence.

I doubt you will put the effort forth to analyze your own behaviors to see why they are not productive or healthy. Why, when you already have decided you are right and Mike is a liar. Using the term skeptic is your free license to insult, ridicule, and humiliate everyone whom is not as closed minded as you.

If you really cared, you would act in a professional manner. You don't care. Accept it, and stop getting pissed at people whom you consider inferior. If what Mike or anyone else says angers you, it speaks far more of your own bad behaviors, than it does of their 'flawed' perspective. Your anger is proof that what is said insults you, otherwise you wouldn't bother.

I'm sorry. I am terribly sorry for you, maybe in a few years you can accept that people don't have to agree with you to have intellectual value. I really wish you could understand. Now, feel free to spew your anger and tell me that because I just told you off, that makes me no better (if not worse) than the unacceptable behaviors you are engaging in.

reply to post by GideonHM

This was just BUMPED today...
Maybe enforcement is on the way...

No more scoffing and ridicule...
That is the old rule...

www.abovetopsecret.com...

reply to post by zorgon

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First, why don't we correctly define what we're seeing......two parallel lines that appear to be on the surface of the moon. That's all they are at this point. The immediate jump to describing them as "tracks" is assumptive and in no way supported by what we see.

Second, why do the lines appear to abruptly end at the clearly artificial, horizontal line in the image? Something magically stopped making "tracks"?

reply to post by GideonHM

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Sure, and your post is a model in restraint, civility, and decorum.