Hitler, Ayrans, Summerians. How it all ties in., page 4


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reply posted on 20-8-2008 @ 08:01 AM by NephraTari
Originally posted by ExoByte

The Sumerians credited all of their highly advanced knowledge and wisdom to the Annunaki. Translation: "Those who from heaven to earth came." They depicted the Annunaki as looking quite similar to us, except they glowed. Hence why they were also nicknamed "The Shining Ones". They depicted what these "Annunaki" liked to cruise around in below.



I'll let you draw your own conclusions as to what the above crafts resemble.




I know you have done your little bit of gathering on the internet and you feel what you have come up with is new and original knowledge but just so you know.. most people that study this field are already aware of much of this.

MOST importantly... you are MIS INFORMED.

anyone who goes to that link will know almost immediately that your story is inaccurate as that image is from heiroglyphics at the temple of abydos it is not ancient sumerian.

You lost alot of people by posting fake facts.

Keep searching you do not have the correct story yet.. and please in the future do not approach a room full of researchers as though you are a wise sage bringing them knowledge based on some book or website you read.


reply posted on 20-8-2008 @ 08:39 AM by TeslaandLyne
reply to post by Cythraul



Very interesting Cythraul.

I view Poland as having mostly white, blond and blue eyed ( not true surely)
people yet Hitler put them under his sub human list.

Another big lie from some story teller.

Any idea on the source and the provenance of who continues the mass
media, or media to the masses, lies.


reply posted on 20-8-2008 @ 08:46 AM by TeslaandLyne
reply to post by NephraTari



I see helicopters and submarines and airplanes along with bugs.

Not knowing what happened in the recent past, say even 911 7 years ago
and forget free energy, Tesla and the UFO, has meant the lies
must go further back.


reply posted on 20-8-2008 @ 09:29 AM by anti72
reply to post by TeslaandLyne



no helicopters, no planes, no submarines.just scripting.

www.catchpenny.org...
www.catchpenny.org/abydos.html

cheers

[edit on 20-8-2008 by anti72]


reply posted on 20-8-2008 @ 10:30 AM by _Heretic
Originally posted by anti72
reply to
post by TeslaandLyne



no helicopters, no planes, no submarines.just scripting.

www.catchpenny.org...
www.catchpenny.org/abydos.html

cheers


interesting read

and although I am not trying to say you or your source are wrong, I would like a more academic source if you have one as the interpretation they offer is rather based on the assumptions.

If the ancient Egyptians had vehicles such as helicopters, submarines, and jet airplanes, one would expect to find some evidence of this other than in a single inscription on the lintel of a single temple. This type of large machinery requires a vast amount of support (including fuel, parts, factories, etc.) but there is no trace of any such support in all of Egypt.


this assumes that because they would inscribe something on a wall, then they would have to have built it and used them as we would in our modern world does it not? I find it lacking that this counterpoint is based on what they have NOT found.

yet there are many petroglyph and paintings the world over with pictographs depicting images that have been witnessed and not necessarily employed. Could this not also be the case here.

And if such an erosion were to occur then would we not see it replicated "somewhere" throughout the vast collections of Egyptian writings. Why is this the only case, when the odds are against it?

The Egyptian literature is also bereft of any boast, much less passing mention, of advanced aircraft. Obviously this situation doesn't seem peculiar to those who really want to believe that the ancient Egyptians flew around in airplanes.


I accept that there is no mention of modern day equipment in the literature of the Egyptians just for arguments sake because I dont know. But were not the gods imbued with flight? I see many depictions of gods with wings. Are we to believe that they flew? If not then why the wings?

I am sorry but I find this source to be inadequate on its own as proof that these are not pictographs of something enigmatic and not just aged stone.

I would need more to agree with you. And again please understand that I am not supportive that these are planes and helicopters, but I am intrigued.

peace



reply posted on 20-8-2008 @ 11:50 AM by LovelyDoom

yet there are many petroglyph and paintings the world over with pictographs depicting images that have been witnessed and not necessarily employed. Could this not also be the case her


Heretic, I see your point. I'm not an expert in ancient writings, but I am a linguistics expert so I know a thing or two, and actually the "palimpsest" effect in ancient carvings is quite widespread from what I gather. Names of the deposed were rubbed out and redone to other names quite often. I know those look like pictures of strange planes, but to me they do look like chopped up bits of writing. If you look closely you can see the places where the superimposed glyphs got chipped off.

Another thing to note about ancient middle eastern writing is that they usually used writing as an aesthetic, not just a communication, so the order of the words, and the size of different pieces could be jumbled to create a more interesting shape overall. (Kind of like we have integrated letter designs on signs and things in the modern world)

I can't say much for the rest of the evidence, but I think in this case, the ancient carvings are examples of writing and not carvings of actual phenomena.

HOWEVER! I can't actually find a source for the sign numbers referenced on the catchpenny site, but that may be due to my lack of knowledge of the writing system, or simply that no one has bothered to put a dictionary on the internet. If I ever get around to a careful study of ancient writing, I will get back to you with my conclusions. For now, I guess it's your own judgment call.

I did have one idea though; even if the Sumerian legends were completely untrue in every way, if Hitler discovered them and came to the same conclusions or similar that the OP did, could that not have been a motivation for him?


reply posted on 20-8-2008 @ 12:29 PM by Turiddu
reply to post by TeslaandLyne



The Germans planned to completely destroy the Polish state and repopulate the region with Germanic settlers. That being said there were a significant part of the Polish population who fit the "Germanic Aryan" phenotype, these people were going to be slowly assimilated into a more Germanic culture. The Germans even forcibly removed Polish children from their parents if they fit the "Germanic" phenotype. The children were then sent to be raised by proper German families. The rest of the Polish population of the Slavic type (and the Jews) were going to be enslaved, exterminated or forced into exile outside the Reich.

reply to post by kacou



This issue has been covered earlier, the term "Aryan" does NOT mean only blond hair and blue eyes. "Aryans" could be brown haired Frenchmen, black haired Italians and Iranians and even brown skinned Indians. Here is a quote from his Political Testament regarding the Asian races:

"I have never regarded the Chinese or the Japanese as being inferior to ourselves. They belong to ancient civilisations, and I admit freely that their past history is superior to our own. They have the right to be proud of their past, just as we have the right to be proud of the civilisation to which we belong. Indeed, I believe the more steadfast the Chinese and the Japanese remain in their pride of race, the easier I shall find it to get on with them." (13th February 1945)



As for the myth of Hitler having Jewish blood, this has been discredited in all of his major biographies.

[edit on 20-8-2008 by Turiddu]


reply posted on 20-8-2008 @ 12:39 PM by TeslaandLyne
reply to post by Vehemens



How are there more planet explanations that haven't already been
explained by Velakovsky.

As I said I am not that familiar with the topic but going into
ancient stories was his bailiwick and apparently the endevor
has spread to many more authors.
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