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reply posted on 19-8-2008 @ 04:06 AM by Riposte
reply to post by Fastwalker81



I already answered your question. It doesn't have to do with the act of charging anything in and of itself. It has to do with the amount of money someone such as he would theoretically be making.

If he was earning $10 million a year and living in a $20 million mansion with 5 swimming pools, then you should be able to understand that a lifestyle like that completely contradicts everything he is trying to teach.

You should know this if you have read his website or know anything at all about his philosophy. I can't believe that I even have to explain this... but I guess you're one of the reasons why televangelists can make so much money.


reply posted on 19-8-2008 @ 04:07 AM by TerraX
Originally posted by Riposte
What do you mean, "not hard to see the skepticism here?" Do you think I'm trying to hide it or something? Because I'm not.

It wasn't a question, but I was emphasizing your skeptical approach. Thank you for confirming it.

The "money angle" is perfectly relevant here, because if Gilliland is making several hundred thousand dollars a year from this, it doesn't seem to mesh nicely with the philosophy he espouses on his website and videos. That kind of a contradiction in lifestyle is a major warning sign.

It is even moreso a major warning sign for people who are already eager to debunk a case like that of James Gilliland. If you suspect Gilliland is making "hundred thousands of dollars" then make a case for it. Right now you're speculating and setting the scene. You're using his spiritual oriented message against him but you haven't proven anything in the slightest.

And as you can see from my previous post, I think there is absolutely nothing at all wrong with charging small fees to maintain his ranch and for food and medical expenses.

Alrighty then.

His whole purpose seems to be about being a good Samaritan, so yes, he is going to have to walk the walk, especially if he what he says is true. Otherwise the aliens are going to shut him out, and that is all according to HIS OWN WORDS.

You're going to walk what you talk as well. Atmospheric/plasma anomolies for one but that's off topic, right? As far as Gilliland's "own words", you're setting them up to be used against him. Again you're creating an atmosphere against Gilliland to serve your own belief system (and maybe agenda).

Why don't you just answer the question? I am asking what he charges (which means I don't know what his income looks like). So if you want me to drop it, give me some concrete answer instead of trying to evade the topic altogether.

I don't have an answer to your question. I've never been to Mt. Adams. I don't know what Gilliland charges. From what I can gather on the internet and reports by people who went there, there doesn't seem to be a disproportionate amount of money charging on the part of James Gilliland. That brings me back again to my original statement; "Why don't you just drop this argument? If you see James Gilliland charging way out of proportion then you can make an argument. Don't attempt to create an atmosphere where James Gilliland is already suspect as being a propheteer."

Got it?


reply posted on 19-8-2008 @ 04:15 AM by Riposte
reply to post by TerraX



I asked a question, and explained the implications of the possible answers. You just admitted that you didn't have an answer to my question, which means you were basically trying to discredit me by engaging in fallacious reasoning.

You shouldn't even have bothered replying to me. I've dropped this angle already, yet you apparently decided not to read the thread and and as a result you have turned this thread into a quagmire.

The burden of proof is not on me.



reply posted on 19-8-2008 @ 11:59 AM by Odessy
reply to post by DimensionalDetective



God for you DD!

I've wanted to go ever since you mentioned the place a few months back!

I'll def have to check it out now that im living in Cali.

Good thread! get this place as much attention as it deserves!






reply posted on 19-8-2008 @ 12:25 PM by Anonymous ATS
reply to post by SeekingAlpha




think again, he had plenty of time to set up a tripod and and zoom in very close.

why wasnt this done?

i know that proof isnt required for true believers, however, the rest of us depend on a little more than ufo fanboy gush.

does anyone suppose why, with the constant ufo traffic around there, no one has thought to get some sharp, good footage?

he hasnt so much as put up a single pixel of these hordes on his own site.

the unicorns & crystals crowd set back ufo investigation farther than any disinformation campaign could ever hope to.

why not prefer hard evidence?


reply posted on 19-8-2008 @ 01:22 PM by TheBandit795
reply to post by Anonymous ATS



Anon, did you read his posts?

Originally posted by DimensionalDetective

I know folks will be pissed, but I did not go up there to film this time around, as I knew the ATS crew brought all manner of still and video cams, and if anyone could capture these objects on film, it's them. All I have is a chinstsy little sony cam, and I'm still trying to figure out half the buttons on the dang thing, lol! My main purpose for going up there was just to compare the area to my own location, which is pretty active, and to meet James, and of course ATS being up there was the final kick in the butt I needed to commit to the trip, haha!!


Have some patience. Wait on the ATS production that is coming up. Geez...
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