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TA-ANALYSIS: Bombings in Madrid Designed to Separate Spain From U.S.

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posted on Mar, 16 2004 @ 04:13 PM
Postings on an Internet message board used by al Qaeda revealed that they were planning to remove Spain from the “War on Terror” and separate Spain from the United States with terror attacks. The conversations about attacks in Spain were made in December of 2003, and give further proof that al Qaeda was involved in the recent Spanish bombings of 4 trains. The efforts of al Qaeda have evidently proved successful, as the new leaders of Spain have called the war in Iraq “a total error”, and are planning to remove all of their troops from Iraq.

MADRID, Spain (CNN) -- A document published months before national elections reveals al Qaeda planned to separate Spain from its allies by carrying out terror attacks.
A December posting on an Internet message board used by al Qaeda and its sympathizers and obtained by CNN, spells out a plan to topple the pro-U.S. government.
"We think the Spanish government will not stand more than two blows, or three at the most, before it will be forced to withdraw because of the public pressure on it," the al Qaeda document says.
"If its forces remain after these blows, the victory of the Socialist Party will be almost guaranteed -- and the withdrawal of Spanish forces will be on its campaign manifesto."

The group behind the train bombings is still in question, but whoever was responsible has had the date in mind for some time. The timing of the bombings, which killed over 200 and wounded 1,500 others, was planned to coincide with the elections in Spain. The pro-U.S. Popular Party was expected to easily win the elections but after the bombings, which were 3 days before the elections, the public voted in favor of the Socialist Party.

The new Spanish Prime Minister, Jose Luis Rodriguez Zapatero, is wanting to remove all of Spain’s troops from Iraq by June, and has said “participation in the war has been a total error.” Some have voiced concern that Spain’s response would encourage the terrorist to attempt similar attacks in the U.S. this year, and try to influence the elections this November.

Norwegian Defence Research Establishment Analysis of al Queda Document
Therefore we say that in order to force the Spanish government to withdraw from Iraq the resistance should deal painful blows to its forces.
It is necessary to make utmost use of the upcoming general election in Spain in March next year.
- al Qaeda text

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[Edited on 24-3-2004 by dbates]

posted on Mar, 17 2004 @ 06:32 AM
I think it must be known that in spite of the necessity or not to invade Irak the society of Spain (including people near partido popular) showed last year repulse to this action, and that partido socialista's ideas before 11M were remove the troops from Irak. So this is not a decision taken after 11M and of course not caused by it.
Ok, that was so an expectation, but in truth the partido socialista won the autonomic elections in 2003 in number of votes, although not in seats, and without counting Andalucia, tipically oriented to the socialists. With that, the results of the general elections was not so clear like all the people seems to see it.
I think this is an infunded proposition. The people that change their vote usually have no clear conviction, so why think these people wanted to vote partido popular?
Not at all. Terrorist have their own mind and possibly are not influenced by the results of their attacks. Although they had not been successful in Madrid they would have continued them.

posted on Mar, 17 2004 @ 09:25 AM
In my personal opinion the socialist party is involve in this attack to gain power.

posted on Mar, 17 2004 @ 10:19 PM
In strange, ironic sort of way, just ran across this article and read it.
Purported al Qaeda letter calls truce in Spain

Excerpts: (check these out)

"A group claiming to have links with al Qaeda says it is calling a truce in its Spanish operations to see if the new Madrid government would withdraw its troops from Iraq..."

Like WTF? Are they indicating that they indeed planned the suicide train bombing in hopes that its desired effect would be blatantly what has transpired (read below)?

"In a shock election result three days after the Madrid bombs, Spain voted in the Socialist party, which has since said it will probably withdraw its troops from Iraq."

"WE WANT BUSH TO WIN.................The statement said it supported U.S. President George W. Bush in his reelection campaign, and would prefer him to win in November rather than the Democratic candidate John Kerry, as it was not possible to find a leader "more foolish than you (Bush), who deals with matters by force rather than with wisdom."

Please, I think I'm going to be sick.....

And the above Pearl of Wisdom is brought to you by the same affiliated group who killed 201+/- people by blowing the crap out of a train? The same group affiliations that brought the death of 2500+/- office workers? And countless other operations that have taken innocent lives of civilains? Good grief Charlie Brown....someone needs to put a boot in some of these folks arses!


[Edited on 17-3-2004 by Seekerof]

posted on Mar, 18 2004 @ 01:42 PM

[Edited on 18-3-2004 by marg6043]

posted on Mar, 24 2004 @ 03:04 PM
This article has been updated with a link to information from the al Queda document in question. Very interesting information

posted on Mar, 25 2004 @ 08:08 PM

Originally posted by marg6043
In my personal opinion the socialist party is involve in this attack to gain power.

The attack favored in fact the PP, wich were by far more stricts on their methods against terrorism.

But you only need to see the results, with PP losing only 700.000 votes, while PSOE gained 3.000.000. Only defeated was "abstention".


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