Large Debris Field, No Bodies, No Large Plane Parts. Flight 93? Think again, page 4

Originally posted by ULTIMA1

Why is it so hard to beleive that the government would shoot down a plane if they believed it was heading for the Capitol?

Odd how they didnt shoot down this plane that crashed in the white house compound in 1994:

query.nytimes.com...

Rattled security officials acknowledged today that they could not account for how a small Cessna airplane breached the closely guarded White House compound early this morning. Nor could they guarantee that they could prevent a similar occurrence in the future.

reply to post by ULTIMA1

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Does the 757 have oxygen bottles or oxygen generators?

You have Google.

I do not recall a witness stating about a really large explosion that would have thrown the engine core the distance it was found.

Deflection noted.

reply to post by Amaterasu

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no, you clearly have no idea what the law is, until you do... please don't try to hurl yourself headfirst into a discussion involving them.

reply to post by gavron

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lol, i asked for a link and he just told me to search for his thread.

sorry, but im not going to go trudging through pages of threads involving crazed lunatics think the world is going to end, and our gov't is filled with evil people who have no problem killing thousands of innocents and basically scaring the entire gov't into not saying anything about it.

if you have the evidence like you say you do, then please post it. and please make sure it's not from a blog, or a site called 911truthersunited.com or something like that.

Originally posted by SRTkid86
sorry, but im not going to go trudging through pages of threads involving crazed lunatics think the world is going to end,

Oh poor kid, you cannot look down a couple threads. Maybe some day you will grow up and learn how to look up things but i doubt it. And maybe grow up out of the fantasy world you live in.

I will make it is simple as i can for you.

onlinejournal.com...

On October 29, 2007, WMR reported: “According to U.S. intelligence sources, the archives of the National Security Agency (NSA), available to cleared users via the INTELINK network, contains an archive of Flash precedence and Sensitive Compartmented Information (SCI) NSA intelligence messages known as ‘CRITICs.’

One such CRITIC from September 11, 2001, which includes a number of follow-on intelligence reports, concerns United Airlines flight 93, downed over Shanksville, Pennsylvania. However, the CRITIC is at odds with the official account of the fate of United 93, which is that passengers and crew attacked the hijackers and forced the plane to crash into the ground.

The NSA CRITIC, according to sources who have seen it, is about five or six sentences, and paraphrasically states:

“Two F-16s scrambled from Andrews Air Force Base at [likely 1336 Zulu]. Civilian airline hijacked. Over state of Pennsylvania civilian airliner was ‘intercepted’ at (Latitude and Longitude of intercept].”

Several follow-up CRITICs are appended to the first United 93-related CRITIC. One follow-up CRITIC mentioned a possible fifth hijacked plane flying south from Canada that was near the Canadian-U.S. border. Another CRITIC states the plane ‘intercepted’ over Pennsylvania was ‘confirmed civilian.’

On April 16, 2008, WMR reported: “WMR has received another confirmation, bringing the total number to three, that United Flight 93, hijacked on the morning of September 11, 2001, was shot down over rural Pennsylvania by U.S. Air Force jets scrambled from Andrews Air Force Base in Maryland. There are also reports that one F-16 scrambled from Langley Air Force Base in Virginia returned to base minus one air-to-air missile but the National Security Agency CRITIC report specified the interceptors that downed United 93 took off from Andrews.

“The third confirmation, as were the first two, is from a National Security Agency (NSA) source. In fact, a number of personnel who were on watch at the Meade Operations Center (MOC), which is a floor below the NSA’s National Security Operations Center (NSOC), were aware that United 93 was brought down by an Air Force air-to-air missile. Personnel within both the MOC and NSOC have reported the doomed aircraft was shot down.”

[edit on 19-8-2008 by ULTIMA1]

Originally posted by gavron
Odd how they didnt shoot down this plane that crashed in the white house compound in 1994:

query.nytimes.com...

I remember when this happened on Clinton's watch, I have always thought and still do think that this incident is what gave the terrorists the idea that they could actually pull this off with out much interference.

Originally posted by SRTkid86
reply to post by NorthWolfe CND

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ok, your story was somewhat believable until you walked out onto your driveway (public domain... NOT private property) and threatened federal agents and who knows else with a shotgun...

grow up, quite lieing.

Driveways are private property and the owner can do mostly what they want. City sidewalks however are owned by the city.

In most u.s. cities, the city retains a 3ft easement at the front of all property lots adjoining the street, all property behind the easement is private, regardless of it's physical description, and any use of the property is at the discretion of the owner, check your local municipal or county muni code for specifics!

Originally posted by SRTkid86
reply to post by Amaterasu

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no, you clearly have no idea what the law is, until you do... please don't try to hurl yourself headfirst into a discussion involving them.

Well, now. Perhaps it depends on where one IS whether the driveway is public or private property, n'est pas?

Where *I* come from, the property line starts after an easement for sidewalks (usually - though sometimes it's at the street). Maybe your driveways have been usurped where you reside...

EDIT to add: Seems amazed lives in an area much like mine...

[edit on 8/19/2008 by Amaterasu]

Originally posted by SRTkid86
reply to post by NorthWolfe CND

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ok, your story was somewhat believable until you walked out onto your driveway (public domain... NOT private property) and threatened federal agents and who knows else with a shotgun...

grow up, quite lieing.

My driveway is private property. My property starts at the gates, which are always open, about 1.5 miles from my driveway. My property has about 4 acres (20000 square yards)...

1) My driveway is well inside my Private Property...
2) I did not threaten anyone, just holding my gun in my hands until the intruders identified themselves...
3) I am not lying, hundreds of people went through the same thing, including local police forces. There are currently various "Truth Groups" still active, that include pilots, sailors and some police officials that where witnesses to the "accident" and the highly irregular procedures of the investigation...

I live in Northfork, Long Island, New York. I live in a house, not a condo or a town. Outside my property, not house, there is a public road wit no sidewalks, since you would have to walk a long way to get there...
My nearest neighbor, a Horse and dog breather lives ~2 miles up the road...
After leaving the public road you still have to drive 1.5 miles to reach my driveway and my house...
I never left my front porch, which is quite large, since I own a Victorian House, nor did I point the gun at anybody. I would have if they, instead of identifying themselves, tied to go for their guns...

My gate has two signs clearly stating "You are now entering Private Property" and "Beware of dogs", since some tourists tend to get lost and could get hurt...
I also have an intercom system, at the gate...

Hope that settled your "legal" issues...

Next time don't arrive at conclusions, based on your own little world view, and don't start offending people you know nothing about.
If you have any doubts, about anything, instead of coming to stupid, unfounded and unwarranted conclusions, just ask...it's far more polite


[edit on 19-8-2008 by NorthWolfe CND]

Originally posted by ULTIMA1

Originally posted by SRTkid86
sorry, but im not going to go trudging through pages of threads involving crazed lunatics think the world is going to end,

Oh poor kid, you cannot look down a couple threads. Maybe some day you will grow up and learn how to look up things but i doubt it. And maybe grow up out of the fantasy world you live in.

I will make it is simple as i can for you.

onlinejournal.com...

On October 29, 2007, WMR reported: “According to U.S. intelligence sources, the archives of the National Security Agency (NSA), available to cleared users via the INTELINK network, contains an archive of Flash precedence and Sensitive Compartmented Information (SCI) NSA intelligence messages known as ‘CRITICs.’

...

[edit on 19-8-2008 by ULTIMA1]

You use an online hearsay news source which you know is wrong because you are in the NSA. Why does the news source make up false ideas about flight 93? The FDR proves 93 was not shot down, the physics of flight prove no fighters were near 93, and the impact crater and debris field prove 93 was not shot down. The debris all starts at the fuselages, wing, tail impact point! The imprint in the ground is exactly the size of flight 93's wings!

Was this your big NSA proof of shoot down?

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