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Israel wants defenseless Palestine

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posted on Aug, 18 2008 @ 01:03 PM
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Israel wants defenseless Palestine


www.presstv.com

Israel wants defenseless Palestine
Mon, 18 Aug 2008 09:53:09 GMT


An Israeli F-15I
An Israeli security plan presented to the United States demands that any future Palestinian state not have defense forces or weapons.

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posted on Aug, 18 2008 @ 01:03 PM
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Thats sounds about right.


And why do Palestinians have to suffer or what Hitler did?

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posted on Aug, 18 2008 @ 01:23 PM
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if the palestinians could have any form of defence that could somehow blow the crap out of the IAF

on one of their attack runs or indimdation tec by going supersonic over palestinaina land,

it would be very bad.

no one has the right to defend them selves from the terrorist state of Israel



posted on Aug, 19 2008 @ 12:58 AM
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Originally posted by bodrul
reply to post by IvanZana
 


if the palestinians could have any form of defence that could somehow blow the crap out of the IAF

on one of their attack runs or indimdation tec by going supersonic over palestinaina land,

it would be very bad.

no one has the right to defend them selves from the terrorist state of Israel


Yeah, that's exactly it, since Palestine is run by an accepted terrorist organisation - what do you think they'd try to do if they did have some kind of armed forces? Do you think they'd just leave Israel alone?

Of course not, they'd just simply attempt an attack and force the Israeli's to deck them.



posted on Aug, 19 2008 @ 07:15 AM
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Palestine is not allowed to defend itself?


I guess by that logic America's founding fathers were also terrorists for attempting to defend themselves from a foreign occupier?

So how do you expect them to react when Israeli bulldozers knock over their homes and 50ft walls enclose them into ghettos like the Poles in WW2, or the IAF "accidentally" blows up civilians left and right...

news.bbc.co.uk...
www.cbc.ca...
www.amnesty.org...
edition.cnn.com...
www.smh.com.au...

Hamas is only recognised as a terrorist organisation by 5 countries in total and obviously all of them are American lapdogs.

The rest of the world sees them through their own eyes: a resistance movement for the Independence of Palestine.

Resistance is not unique to Islam nor Christianity, it's human nature. The oppressed fight back with whatever means they can.

America needs to end this sad relationship with the Zionists.
Israel is not the 51st State.

American interests and Israeli interests conflict on so many levels, it beggars belief why America should sacrifice it's own national security to help Israel?

Supporting is Israel not only bad for National Security because it comes back to bite America's ass in the long run it's also a terrible strain on the US economy.
America's parasitic friend gets per year $2.16 billion dollars and rising in various forms of "aid".

By supporting Israel, it gives justification to all those Islamic Fundamentalists to attack the US. That's why US troops are dying everyday. Two of Osama's key objectives is the withdrawal of US forces from Saudi Arabia and the cessation of support for Israel.

America didn't create Israel, it didn't bring it on to it's feet, it's not Americas responsibility.

And what does Israel give America back besides a huge bullseye on it's ass for every extremist group in the world?
Felafel? Free residency for American Jews?

WOW! What a relationship. Seems the love is a little one-sided to me.
Friends are one thing, what the US and Israel have is a parasitic relationship.
Israel is the leech, America is the fat hog being slowly drained.

The only reason Israel is such a intractable part of American Foreign Policy is because of the Jewish Lobby in Congress who's true loyalty is questionable at best and the growing number of Israelis with Dual Citizenship in the Bush Administration:
www.abovetopsecret.com...

The US needs to leave Israel on it's ass instead of rushing to it's aid when it stirs up another sh*tstorm, it can sort out it's own problems.


[edit on 19/8/08 by The Godfather of Conspira]



posted on Aug, 19 2008 @ 07:44 AM
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This is what have here...

www.billslinksandmore.com...
Zionism And The American Way

Zionists dominate the American media, government, academia and Hollywood. ABC, NBC, CBS, CNN, The Washington Post, The New York Times, Time Magazine, Newsweek, People Magazine, US News and World Report as well as countless other media and Hollywood companies all have either a Zionist CEO, a Zionist News Chief, or are owned by a media conglomerate which has a Zionist CEO — which explains why there is no mention of Israel’s terror attacks against Palestine and why Palestinians are always portrayed as the terrorists. The corporately owned media controls the news and tells you what they want you to know, purposely omitting information they don’t want you to know. A lot more information can be found from The National Alliance.

AIPAC, the Israeli lobbying organization is apparently the most feared lobby in Washington DC. AIPAC consists of 60,000 members who donate millions of dollars to the vast majority of Congress. America has been under the control of Israel for quite a while.
Why is this important? Zionists played a key role in leading the U.S. into two world wars and are busily trying to start a third one. Zionists don’t care if Americans — or anyone else for that matter — are killed to further their goals and are capable of committing brutal acts and genocide. Zionists have a record of attacking Americans in order to frame Arabs and Zionists control the media. A Zionist is also running the Pentagon. Where do you think their loyalties lie? Hint: it’s not with America. All this and so much more easily verifiable information can be found from The American Patriot Friends Network.

Most people aren’t aware of the role that Zionism has played in America’s history, and the role it still plays. With the appointment of the Bush administration, Zionism has played a much larger, deadlier role and has led to the willful destruction of freedom and democracy. There is nothing wrong with being an ally to Israel or having Jewish friends, but there something majorly wrong when Israeli corruption undermines American democracy. Until America does something about it, things will never change.

Well Well...President shrub has quite a few dual Israeli-American citizenship friends he likes to plug into positions of power...

www.viewzone.com...

Michael Mukasey
Recently appointed as US Attorney General. Mukasey also was the judge in the litigation between developer Larry Silverstein and several insurance companies arising from the destruction of the World Trade Center on 9/11/2001.
Michael Chertoff
Former Assistant Attorney General for the Criminal Division, at the Justice Department; now head of Homeland Security.
Richard Perle
One of Bush's foreign policy advisors, he is the chairman of the Pentagon's Defense Policy Board. A very likely Israeli government agent, Perle was expelled from Senator Henry Jackson's office in the 1970's after the National Security Agency (NSA) caught him passing Highly-Classified (National Security) documents to the Israeli Embassy. He later worked for the Israeli weapons firm, Soltam. Perle came from one the above mentioned pro-Israel thinktanks, the AEI. Perle is one of the leading pro-Israeli fanatics leading this Iraq war mongering within the administration and now in the media.
Paul Wolfowitz
Former Deputy Defense Secretary, and member of Perle's Defense Policy Board, in the Pentagon. Wolfowitz is a close associate of Perle, and reportedly has close ties to the Israeli military. His sister lives in Israel. Wolfowitz came from the above mentioned Jewish thinktank, JINSA. Wolfowitz was the number two leader within the administration behind this Iraq war mongering. He later was appointed head of the World Bank but resigned under pressure from World Bank members over a scandal involving his misuse of power.
just to name a few



posted on Aug, 19 2008 @ 08:30 AM
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Originally posted by The Godfather of Conspira
Palestine is not allowed to defend itself?


Is Israel not allowed to defend itself? Do you think if Israel suddenly said "okay, yeah, you guys do what you like" that they wouldn't instantly raise a useless militia and then start attacking Israel until Israel's hand is forced?


Originally posted by The Godfather of ConspiraI guess by that logic America's founding fathers were also terrorists for attempting to defend themselves from a foreign occupier?


Do you mean the thirteen British colonies that rebelled, or the native peoples that were there? Either way, your statement is loaded and false.


Originally posted by The Godfather of ConspiraSo how do you expect them to react when Israeli bulldozers knock over their homes and 50ft walls enclose them into ghettos like the Poles in WW2, or the IAF "accidentally" blows up civilians left and right...


This is a result of attacking Israel, relentlessly and pointlessly.


Originally posted by The Godfather of ConspiraHamas is only recognised as a terrorist organisation by 5 countries in total and obviously all of them are American lapdogs.


I'm happy with your and their assessments of the situation. Hamas are still a terrorist organisation with the end goal of destroying Israel.


Originally posted by The Godfather of ConspiraThe rest of the world sees them through their own eyes: a resistance movement for the Independence of Palestine.


And they forfitted that when they became involved in a war they couldn't win, and lost their territory to the victor. If the Muslim nations that attacked Israel (which resulted in the loss of their own territory) had sat at home and relaxed with a, er fruit juice, then none of this would have happened to the Palestinians.


Originally posted by The Godfather of ConspiraResistance is not unique to Islam nor Christianity, it's human nature. The oppressed fight back with whatever means they can.


So don't whine when you lose. Honestly, if you're going to start wars, lose wars and then get occupied by your intended victim, what sympathy should I have?


Originally posted by The Godfather of ConspiraAmerica needs to end this sad relationship with the Zionists.
Israel is not the 51st State.

American interests and Israeli interests conflict on so many levels....


This is of no interest to me at all. I don't care what America does nor who it claims to be allies with.


Originally posted by The Godfather of ConspiraThe US needs to leave Israel on it's ass instead of rushing to it's aid when it stirs up another sh*tstorm, it can sort out it's own problems.


America has held Israel back from domination of the Middle East. Learn your history.

[edit on 19-8-2008 by C.C.Benjamin]



posted on Aug, 19 2008 @ 08:31 AM
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I have been keeping an eye on developments the last couple of weeks concerning the Gaza bound supply boats, manned by volunteers with medical aid and other essentials denied by Israel.
These people have received phone calls threatening not only them but their families as well. An Israeli minister has gone so far as to label them pirates so it'll be interesting to see what action Israel takes against them as they approach the Gaza coast.

www.telegraph.co.uk...

Some of the reporting seems a little biased as well:


Gaza has been subject to heavy economic sanctions since the Islamist militant group Hamas violently wrested control there in June 2007. Hamas has refused international demands to recognise Israel and renounce violence.


As I remember it, the people of Palestine voted Hamas into power due to a complete lack of confidence in the PA in representing them. Israel and the Us then bankrolled and armed the PA to fight against Hamas and hold onto power, defying the will of the people in what were open monitored elections.



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