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The Most Corupt Olympics Ever!!!

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posted on Aug, 18 2008 @ 06:15 AM
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Don't get me wrong I have been lucky enough to have had a chance to compete at an elite level in athletics in my life but there is something not right about these games.

So far there have been numerous world records that have been broken but it's not just one athlete breaking it but 2-4 at a time, how is this happening? Either there is a new drug out that can not be tested yet or the human body has evolved all of a sudden.

Also China has the world's worst record when it comes to athletes being caught for drugs in sports yet not one so far has been caught this is not due to them cleaning themsleves up but because they are not testing their own after winning medals as they are doing all the testing and the IOC is doing nothing about it.

Below is a link:www.chinadaily.com.cn...

I'm convinced that the IOC got it all wrong when they gave the Olympics to China but they must have been payed alot of money to give it to them.




posted on Aug, 18 2008 @ 07:54 AM
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Originally posted by cnm1976

Don't get me wrong I have been lucky enough to have had a chance to compete at an elite level in athletics in my life but there is something not right about these games.



Drug tests if they do them are a complete diversion from the truth, to keep it hidden.

They can do all the testing for drugs they want to do it is meaningless..

What is really going on is a form of genetic enhancement, and there is no way to prove it has been done to an athlete, because it literally becomes part of who they are.

Believe it or not most of this stuff is the direct result of Nazi scientists that found sanctuary in Iran after WWII.

They continued their work most of them up until they died.

Lots of the research has been replicated and expanded in several different countries, because parts of the work were sold off to get money to continue all the work that was thought might be useful for military purposes.

From what I can gather several recent advancements have been made that are going to make nuclear weapons in war obsolete, even war itself is going to end the first time these genetic weapons are used.

Imagine being able to either kill all your enemies anywhere anytime you like, or turn them into something like a pet where they happily and willingly serve your interest, and they don't even know that they have been changed.



posted on Aug, 18 2008 @ 07:58 AM
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Originally posted by cnm1976

So far there have been numerous world records that have been broken but it's not just one athlete breaking it but 2-4 at a time, how is this happening? Either there is a new drug out that can not be tested yet or the human body has evolved all of a sudden.

I thought this also while watching swimming and seeing how many swimmers were past the record line as they swam. maybe the pool isn't the correct length? do they check this?



posted on Aug, 18 2008 @ 08:04 AM
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I think, as far as the swimming goes, that their new suits are the culprit. There was a big stink from the German swimmers that they couldn't wear the new, high-tech, speedo suits because Germany still has a contract with Reebok. I remember thinking, "whatever", before the games began. Then I saw the race that 5 relay teams beat the world record at the same time! I was like, whoa! And not a German in sight! I think there's something to it now...



posted on Aug, 18 2008 @ 08:06 AM
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watching olympics this bothered me - what are some athletes using?

seems to me that some kind of new drug is availible on black market.
and for swimming - when one of our swimmers said " they are all on some kind of steroid" i thought she was just angry but more and more i watch olympics i'm thinking she's right

look at cycling as a sport last few years. it's should be brought to only amateur level because it has no sence now with all that scandals about drugs and scary medical stuff



posted on Aug, 18 2008 @ 09:21 AM
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Originally posted by Gatordone
I think, as far as the swimming goes, that their new suits are the culprit. There was a big stink from the German swimmers that they couldn't wear the new, high-tech, speedo suits because Germany still has a contract with Reebok. I remember thinking, "whatever", before the games began. Then I saw the race that 5 relay teams beat the world record at the same time! I was like, whoa! And not a German in sight! I think there's something to it now...


Yeah, supposedly the suits have some flotation properties to them so they just spend their energies going forward and not to stay afloat. As far as the Germans are concerned oh well, they shouldn't have made a contract with reebok...



posted on Aug, 18 2008 @ 09:40 AM
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It's not anything to do with bouyancy of the suits. The new suits are made of a material that cuts drag down to virtually nothing.



posted on Aug, 18 2008 @ 10:16 AM
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The suits have been around for a while now and swimmers are getting better times due to the lack of drag.

The pool in the cube is a marvel of design ingenuity, the lane spacers, the depth of the pool and the empty lanes either side of the pool have all been specially configured to ensure that the water is pressed downwards rather than outwards and that the pool surface is less "choppy" as a result and minimising the advantage that those in the middle lanes usually have.

So its actually made things fairer for all swimmers and ensured that faster times can be achieved.

That is why we are seeing all these records being broken.
We could learn a thing or two from the chinese, if you ask me.



posted on Aug, 18 2008 @ 12:10 PM
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Records are there to be broken. All it could be is as "sports science" gets better every year, the training improves, and then the athletes perform better. Its not just the training that's getting better, but so is the equipment. Materials are getting better, lighter, and more wickable. Running shoes can now be computer designed and moulded to and individuals foot. Every little bit helps. For a good comparison, just look at the bicycles used in the 2000 Olympics, and compare them with today. Lighter bikes, faster times.

In 2012, don't be too surprised if yet even more records are broken.



posted on Aug, 18 2008 @ 12:30 PM
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The Olympics is an outdated 20th Century event used primarily as a propaganda tool to promote the host country's political agenda. Which system works best? Capitalism, where money is thrown at rich participants to give them superior training, or Socialism/Communism, where young people showing promise are taken from their families and trained in factories for the good of the State?

Bleh.



posted on Aug, 18 2008 @ 01:03 PM
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The Olympic games date from ancient Greece and the modern games have been nearly continuous since the 19th century.

They do carry a lot of political baggage and usually the cities that host them wind up losing more than they gain.

This year, China wanted to show the world that they are capable of being a First World nation, although, except for the facilities, their social warts were more visible than they have ever been.

The Olympics have been abused in the past, but ultimately like life itself, we should focus on the positive and not the negative.

Taken at face value, the games are an opportunity for the nations of the world to come together to do something more civilized than having the participants kill one another.

[edit on 2008/8/18 by GradyPhilpott]



posted on Aug, 18 2008 @ 01:59 PM
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Its called the fastest pool in the world for a reason. The whole design of the pool is just much more advanced than any other pool in the world. There was this segment on CBC on why its the fastest pool, there were points such as temp, deeper, gutters etc.



posted on Aug, 18 2008 @ 02:35 PM
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The following is my opinion as a member participating in this discussion.



To quote the dear departed New Age Outlaws

"I got two words for ya......"

Sour grapes.





As an ATS Staff Member, I will not moderate in threads such as this where I have participated as a member.



posted on Aug, 18 2008 @ 02:54 PM
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I have no idea how corrupt this Olympic is, but I think China's gold medals should be ten times cleaner than most countries’.

Why?

Simply because most our medals are from skill related events, such as diving. If a country with 1.4 billion people can get only one gold medal from swimming pool, track and field, and was blamed for doping, I think it is a bit hypocritical.

Today, if an athlete is caught doping in China, both the athlete and his/her coach will face a lifetime ban. Our policy is much stricter than the rest world. I think it is a smart decision, because the Chinese just cannot excel in track and field, no matter how much drug you eat. That’s the genetic difference. So why bother.

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A brief history of doping in China:
(Based on my memory from an article I read before, the exact year may be incorrect)

1984, probably no one even knows these things. China first time in Olympic.
From 1985, several coaches from previous eastern Germany were invited to China.
From 1985 to 1989, drugs started prevailing among athletes but relative slow speed. China got five gold medals in 1988 Olympic game, absolutely clean.
1990, Asia sports game, drugs were found useful
From 1990 to 1994, drugs getting more and more popular. China won four swimming gold medals in 1992 Olympic, which are highly suspected related to drugs.
1994, Asia sports game, more than 20 athletes were caught and were banned two years according to international law.
1995, China published first sports law to enforce anti-doping.
1994 – 1998, doping didn’t stop there but cases reduced.
1998, China published revised law and athletes will be banned for four years. usually two years in US.

2001, China won the bid for 2008 Olympic. China’s PM signed a new sports law. Athletes and their coaches will face lifetime ban and jail time in serious cases (usually if caught internationally).
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Since 2005, I didn’t hear any doping case related to Chinese.

Definitely, you can say we got new drugs, but drugs probably are useless in most of those events we got our medals.



posted on Aug, 18 2008 @ 02:59 PM
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Fake Fireworks, Minni Vanilli type singing by the Chinese. Just the opening ceremonies made it the most corrupt.

Michael Phelps and the US Basketball Team are the only thing I'll remember about this one.



posted on Aug, 18 2008 @ 03:27 PM
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What about Usain Bolt's magnificent performance in the 100metres?

Oh, he's not American so will you just ignore that?



posted on Aug, 18 2008 @ 04:36 PM
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Originally posted by Freeborn

What about Usain Bolt's magnificent performance in the 100metres?

Oh, he's not American so will you just ignore that?


Is it possible to ignore something that you had no idea even took place?

I have not watched 2 seconds of Olympic coverage. You can't help but hear about Michael Phelps awesomeness, and since I am a Chris Paul fan, I follow what is happening with the USA Basketball team. But as far as someone running on a track....if it isn't a horse I have money on...I don't care.



posted on Aug, 18 2008 @ 04:52 PM
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Originally posted by RRconservative

.....You can't help but hear about Michael Phelps awesomeness,



Yeah, he sure done well and deserves all the accolades he is receiving.



and since I am a Chris Paul fan, I follow what is happening with the USA Basketball team.


Sorry, not a basketball fan at all.
Who is Chris Paul?



But as far as someone running on a track....if it isn't a horse I have money on...I don't care.


LOL, done my nuts in on the nags recently, would be interesting if they made Horse Racing an Olympic Sport.

Seriously, if you get a chance to watch Usain Bolt's performance in the 100metres it was really impressive.
He broke the world record easng up about 30metres away from the line.

He goes for the 200 metres tomorrow, what odds on him breaking the world record in this event too?



posted on Aug, 18 2008 @ 05:40 PM
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Well Said GradyPhilpott.


"The goal of the Olympic Movement is to contribute to building a peaceful and better world by educating youth through sport practised without discrimination of any kind and in the Olympic spirit, which requires mutual understanding with a spirit of friendship, solidarity and fair play."



posted on Aug, 19 2008 @ 03:45 AM
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How can I be sour grapes? It's an open discussion forum!!

Still no one has proven me wrong in saying that not one Chinese athlete has been tested.

I do however believe that technology in sport has changed and has helped world records become lower.

As for harsh penalties for chinese athletes and the coaches it will not stop athletes taking drugs as the benefits of endorments for winning a gold medal due to the money factor.

I know for a fact back in the late 60's early 70's in America you could not earn more than $2.65 a day or you where a professional athlete. Once you became professional you were never picked for an Olympic team, so what happened to those times when you trained your butt out to be the best? Corporate dollars that's what happened that's when all the corruption in sport became BIG.



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