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Originally posted by havanaja
Basically, the forum was not under control as the Reverend thought, or claimed, it was. This casts doubt on the Reverend, the Forum, and McCain. The Reverend suffers loss because he now looks like a fool or liar, his efforts to contribute to true information are made to look worthless and suspicious. On the other hand, why didnt the Reverend make certain that each participant was at the same starting line at the same time? This was a major failure in procedure. If this was an Olympic event, the Forum would be declared a false start, and stopped before it even began.
Also, nerf rogues
Originally posted by Andrew E. Wiggin
reply to post by walkinghomer
That is a very good point, homer.
There is no question that McCain had the upper hand ahead of time.
But it just goes to show you that McCain is scared and feels he has to cheat to beat Obama.
And he didnt even capitalize on it like he should've.
Obama still shined.
Even through the feel-good rainbow fluff of McCains sob stories and empty promises, Obama's words still had profound impact on most people watching.
Its all too easy to use this against McCain.
You do realize that at one point in the questioning, Obama said something like, "I knew about his question ahead of time and was thinking about it".
Originally posted by jhill76
reply to post by Dronetek
You do realize that at one point in the questioning, Obama said something like, "I knew about his question ahead of time and was thinking about it".
It was stated that they were given at least ONE question in advance. But, McCain seemed to have all of the questions before hand. So using that little line, doesn't hold any weight at all.
Next, McCain, like Obama, knew the first two questions that would be asked of him — the "three wisest people" question and the "greatest moral failure" questions. Both men knew exactly what was coming at the start of the appearance. This morning I talked to A. Larry Ross, who is the media representative for the Saddleback Church, and he told me that Warren "gave both candidates the first two questions because he didn't want them to be nervous…so they would be at ease."
In addition, according to Ross, Obama knew a third specific question that Warren would ask — the one about a "president's emergency plan for adoption." "[Warren] felt that since that was basically asking for a commitment, he felt that it was fair to tell them in advance that he was going to ask them that," Ross told me. So Warren told Obama, and planned to tell McCain when McCain arrived at Saddleback, but wasn't able to because of other distractions. So according to what Ross told me, Obama actually knew one more question in advance than did McCain.
Originally posted by jam321
I think they both had a head up.
Ross says the whole event only came about because of the relationship Warren has with both men. He said they all agreed to assure a “level field, “McCain would not hear the questions or Senator Obama’s answers.” The pastor spoke to each candidate this week, giving the general themes. Warren decided to tell them each the first two questions in advance, about the three wisest people you know, and the biggest moral failings.
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Originally posted by Dronetek
There is more to information to destroy this latest Obama/media smear job.
In addition, according to Ross, Obama knew a third specific question that Warren would ask — the one about a "president's emergency plan for adoption." "[Warren] felt that since that was basically asking for a commitment, he felt that it was fair to tell them in advance that he was going to ask them that," Ross told me. So Warren told Obama, and planned to tell McCain when McCain arrived at Saddleback, but wasn't able to because of other distractions. So according to what Ross told me, Obama actually knew one more question in advance than did McCain.
So, Obama actually knew more of the questions ahead of time than Mccain did!
McCain opted not to sit in the "cone of silence" like he agreed to and rather sat in the Limo listening to Obama's answers and getting coached by his staff? He had ALL the questions before hand AND Obama's answers.
Originally posted by CO Vet
I love fabricators who work off of only insinuation and innuendo. I guess if you have no dirt on someone, you have to fabricate it yourself, whether true or not matters not.
Originally posted by Dronetek
McCain opted not to sit in the "cone of silence" like he agreed to and rather sat in the Limo listening to Obama's answers and getting coached by his staff? He had ALL the questions before hand AND Obama's answers.
Well, you're just making that last part up. you have no idea what McCain was doing on the way to the debate and he actually got there before the end.
[edit on 18-8-2008 by Dronetek]