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Denver Protesters Outraged Over Makeshift Razor-Wire Jail in Denver Warehouse :video:

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posted on Aug, 17 2008 @ 06:02 PM
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Denver Protesters Outraged Over Makeshift Razor-Wire Jail in Denver Warehouse :video:


www.breitbart.tv

"We're trying to shine the light on this little secret political prisoner camp that was being set up in the city of Denver."
(visit the link for the full news article)




posted on Aug, 17 2008 @ 06:02 PM
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An inside prison set up with razor wire ?

www.breitbart.tv
(visit the link for the full news article)



posted on Aug, 17 2008 @ 06:19 PM
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Why does this not suprise me? In a country where peaceful assembly,and freedom of speech are rights.We are handed "free speech zones" where the people with something to say are keep at a "safe distance" from the people who need to hear the message. The makeshift prisons are just one more step toward total control of the populace.
I have come to the conclusion that this government we have needs an enema!



posted on Aug, 17 2008 @ 06:28 PM
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Protestors protesting a protestors jail. There comes a time when every right can be abused. The protestors are certainly abusing the right of free speach. An individual has a right to free speach but it can be argued that huge well organized faceless entities which fund and organize protests do not. If these corraled massive blocks of human flesh which are assembled not for individual free speach, but a collective singular voice of some sponsors cause get locked up in razorwired cages, the majority of US citizens won't give a flying hoot and probably enjoy the spectacle.



posted on Aug, 17 2008 @ 06:41 PM
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no disrespect intended ...but what the H are you talking about???

protesters are abusing their right to free speech ???????????????

your the same guy that dumps on Ron paul huh ?

I see.... enough said



posted on Aug, 17 2008 @ 06:46 PM
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Ah we got another fanatical Ron Paul supporter here who doesn't realize the race is over for him. Your type is the reason he went nowhere not my type who saw him for a hypocritical whiney crackpot. Nuff said.



posted on Aug, 17 2008 @ 07:05 PM
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Well we need a place to lock up all the left-liberals dont we?Obama has lied to them.Here are a few groups that will enjoy our new Colorado prison. [the Alliance for Real Democracy consists largely of white liberals who are trying to influence the hopelessly corporate run Democrat Party, Recreate ‘68 is made up primarily of minorities, socialists, anarchists, communists, and other radicals who have fewer illusions in reforming the Democrat Party and who instead want to organize the power of the people. ] And here are some more, liberals all.
[Colorado Green Party, Code Pink, United for Peace and Justice, the Rocky Mountain Peace and Justice Center, the American Friends Service Committee, Iraq Veterans Against the War, Colorado Street Medics, and Students for Peace and Justice] Now, is that any way to treat your voters? lol



posted on Aug, 17 2008 @ 07:09 PM
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I was wondering if you could possibly explain how at a gathering of people their Right to Free Speech doesn't come into play?

Is there a set number of individuals that need to gather before their Right is taken away?

Is your Bill of Rights only convenient when it applies to you and not to others you disagree with?

Does the Right of assembly only apply to individuals? Because I'm pretty sure your Bill of Rights says the following,


the right of the people peaceably to assemble,


That does say people right, not person? I just want to be sure I am reading your words properly

[edit on 17-8-2008 by GAOTU789]



posted on Aug, 17 2008 @ 07:19 PM
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Originally posted by SectionEight
Ah we got another fanatical Ron Paul supporter here who doesn't realize the race is over for him. Your type is the reason he went nowhere not my type who saw him for a hypocritical whiney crackpot. Nuff said.


Okay please enough of that
Ron Paul, despite getting the most donations from the military and the people, didn't go far because he spoke too much truth.

No anti-war candidate got enough coverage, every election year it's the media that chooses front-runners not the people.

Listen, just because you don't see that Ron Paul has awakened masses of people doesn't mean he didn't do it. Your aknowledgement is really not required.

Just because you chose to insult honest politicans that rarely come around doesn't mean you have to spread hatred on such miracles.

Change has occured nonetheless, do you even know how many people are now against the FED, with some of those people not even knowing prior to Ron Paul what the FED even was.

"They attack us because we are over there"
A large population of people heard this and are now thinking more than before.

And im only scratching the surface.

I don't get people like you, candidates spend hundreds of millions of dollars to get mass coverage for promises that will never see the light of day. Then one man comes along and goes against the establishment and all you can do is offend both him and his supporters?

Let me guess why that might be..... you are pro-war.
That's the only thing I can think of, but you might call it defense.



posted on Aug, 17 2008 @ 07:31 PM
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The following is a copy of the Email that I sent to recreate68 legal department:

Greetings!

I was just wondering if "Gitmo on the platte" is legal?

My points:
How many people is it designed for? Are their the proper number of toilets?

Is it handycap accessable?

Were any building permits issued?

Were any building inspections preformed?

In your article "Protest groups picket 'Gitmo on the Platte'", I read "The city and county says it is not a detention center. It is only to speed up the processing of those who are arrested during the convention."
IF it's not a "detention center why do they plan on detaining people there to "speed up processing"? I've been through processing before. I was placed in a "holding cell" untill I was processed.

Were the people of Denver allowed to vote on building an "Annex" to the Denver jail?

This just seems highly illegal to me.

I would appreciate a relpy from you or a public responce from Denver to my questions and concerns as a citizen of Denver.



posted on Aug, 17 2008 @ 07:36 PM
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Why do so many "free speechers" ignore the real reasons for "protestors" being kept safe distances from certain events?

It's not to prevent any freedoms. It's to protect people and property from those who believe their right to free speech includes the right to vandalize property, the right to assault the police, the right to assault innocent people, etc.

Don't you realize there are many who simply use your organization of a "peaceful" protest as an opportunity to display their ignorance and total disregard for others?

Understand that some of us would be more sympathetic to your complaints of the restriction of your freedoms, if you would simply acknowledge the problem of "not-so-peaceful protestors".



posted on Aug, 17 2008 @ 07:40 PM
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I saw the news on that place it looks like a rat infested place where they are going to bring all the protesters be rowdy or not just to get them off the streets.

The protesters against the jail place had sign with words calling the place another giztmo.

This is the new face of American freedom laws pursue and endorsed by the new fascist government that has taken place in our nations capitol giving a new meaning of constitutional rights.

I can not wait to see how the protesters will be targeted and put under arrest.

You still have freedom of speech but just enforcing it will lend you in a razor-wire jail.

And beware because you many not even get food and water.

Also you name will go into the persons of interest list



posted on Aug, 17 2008 @ 07:44 PM
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A peacefull assembly of townsfolk is not what these charades are. They are organized by extremist groups with agendas. The proper channels of getting regulations and laws passed through State and Federal legislation is too long and laborious a process for them, they want a shortcut and use protesting as a leverage, some may call it holding the system hostage for ransom. Give us our way or we will protest. The lackys on the street holding the signs have no idea why they are even there usually and only cling to rhetoric of the current what do I hate today theme to keep them there.



posted on Aug, 17 2008 @ 08:11 PM
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And perhaps other people would be more sympathetic to your viewpoint when you understand that it's a violation of the Right to Peaceful Assembly to lock up people before any violence is committed?

The key point is: You wait until they do get violent before you lock 'em up; If you lock 'em up before violence occurs then you've just violated their Rights. The whole key is timing...As long as the protesters remain a "peaceful assembly," there's no lawful reason to lock them up.

BTW, your "free speech zone" is right over there, inside the hurricane fence...Mine is everywhere out in the open, wherever I'm not blocking people from going about their daily business.


[edit on 17-8-2008 by MidnightDStroyer]



posted on Aug, 17 2008 @ 08:29 PM
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So.....Get back to me when someone is actually locked up before they have done anything wrong. Then you will have a vocal advocate on your side.

In the mean time, accept this for what it is. A temporary holding area designed as preparation fro the arrest of an unusually large number of people, who have forewarned the authorities of their intentions to "recreate '68".

Are the authorities to assume the "recreation" of the 1968 debacle, means everything except the violence and vandalism? Don't tell me you are that naive!

[edit on 17-8-2008 by WTFover]



posted on Aug, 17 2008 @ 08:47 PM
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You know back in the 60s and 70s people used to mean something to the for the people elected government, under the government we have tolerated and allowed to be in place almost 40 years later we the people are nothing but the a nuisance and a sore on the eyes of those that had hijacked our system of government.

Pity.



posted on Aug, 17 2008 @ 08:57 PM
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Originally posted by SectionEight
reply to post by GAOTU789
 

A peacefull assembly of townsfolk is not what these charades are. They are organized by extremist groups with agendas. The proper channels of getting regulations and laws passed through State and Federal legislation is too long and laborious a process for them, they want a shortcut and use protesting as a leverage, some may call it holding the system hostage for ransom. Give us our way or we will protest. The lackys on the street holding the signs have no idea why they are even there usually and only cling to rhetoric of the current what do I hate today theme to keep them there.


Title of thread is: Denver Protesters Outraged Over Makeshift Razor-Wire Jail in Denver Warehouse


Tell me, Why do you insist on derailing this thread with words like extremist groups, use protesting as a leverage, lackys etc.

I rember another of your posts after Maya432 said


Originally posted by Maya432
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your the same guy that dumps on Ron paul huh ?

I see.... enough said


You snapped:


Originally posted by SectionEight
reply to post by Maya432
 


Ah we got another fanatical Ron Paul supporter here who doesn't realize the race is over for him. Your type is the reason he went nowhere not my type who saw him for a hypocritical whiney crackpot. Nuff said.



So, I ask you, what does that have to do with the title of the thread?



posted on Aug, 17 2008 @ 08:57 PM
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Interesting response section 8 and I don't entirely disagree with you but you failed to even address one of my questions. Although I think you may underestimate the reasoning for the people on the street to be there. As for extremists groups, would your opinion change if these groups protesting where the KKK or neo nazis or the Nation of Islam?

Maybe I'll shorten the questions to this; when does your Bill of Rights become a nuisance in your view?



posted on Aug, 17 2008 @ 09:05 PM
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Hmmm.... your post needs to be addressed also.


It's to protect people and property from those who believe their right to free speech includes the right to vandalize property, the right to assault the police, the right to assault innocent people, etc.

bolding mine

What if those people you speak of were the police? Would that change your opinion of this issue?

Police caught using agent provocateurs at SPP protest

Those protests turned violent. Whose to say it wasn't another group of police that incited it?

And what's with the quotations around free speech and protesters? Do feel those Rights are insignificant?



posted on Aug, 17 2008 @ 09:18 PM
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My opinion is that the Bill of rights applies to all citizens but the extremist groups, be they left or right, are using this to hide behind. A faceless organization with no social security number is not what the Bill of Rights was intended for. It is a catch 22. Joe worker picketing outside his employer is an example of what the Bill of Rights is all about, not some socialist organization that wants to whip up riots on the streets at every political event that gets national press coverage.
We may as well start saying insurance company lobbyists are protected by the bill of rights if that is the case. They are villified for representing their corporate masters, it is just a more high class form of the same shortcut tactics. Lobbyists are seen as scum of the earth but they are no different than these protestors who are being proxy agents for their masters.
Anyways I predict you won't see much outrage over this.



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