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Picking up sounds from Saturn

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posted on Aug, 17 2008 @ 01:11 PM
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Here is a link with audio from Cassini supposedly picking up lightning from the atmosphere of Saturn.

www-pw.physics.uiowa.edu...

Umm. Sound travels through air. How are they picking this up and recording it when there IS NO AIR in space????

Don't believe everything you hear, especially from scientists how want to claim they can explain everything in the universe through their bunk calculations.

Observation, with logical reasoning will tell you they are pulling your strings.



Sounds found at this site.
www-pw.physics.uiowa.edu...


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posted on Aug, 17 2008 @ 01:32 PM
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Manasseh, once more, you are not reading the information that is presented to you.

From www-pw.physics.uiowa.edu...
"Saturn has lightning, apparently deep in its atmosphere, which generates strong radio emissions"

Radio emissions are not sound waves. Radio signals are electromagnetic waves which can travel in the emptiness of vacuum. The waves can be picked up by an antenna and then sent to speakers so they can simulate how they would sound if they were sound waves.

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posted on Aug, 17 2008 @ 01:46 PM
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Oh, I see.

Sound waves from Saturn magically turn into radio waves which travel through the emptiness of space, and they just happen to know the frequency to tune into.

97.1 mhz maybe? Even radio waves need a medium to travel through. Electricity, even lightning, pushes a molecule against a molecule.

The radio wave is no different, just a different frequency...

Leaves much to be answered.

And how is it they know it's lightning??

Once again, your answer to my question seems to raise more questions.

But, at least you didn't add me to the foe list


By the way, a radio wave is just that. A wave produce by an electronic source, in a certain pattern. Here on earth, that would be a radio. For the radio waves in space to travel, would require electrons in space.

Something to ponder.

[edit on 17-8-2008 by Manasseh]



posted on Aug, 17 2008 @ 01:57 PM
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sorry Manasseh but erm



[edit on 4/20/2008 by billyjoinedat2k8]



posted on Aug, 17 2008 @ 02:02 PM
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manessah is making good points if you ask me, or at least noone has properly answered his questions.

manessah


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posted on Aug, 17 2008 @ 02:08 PM
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I am the parakletos.

Read the bible if you don't know who that is. The NEW Testament calls the parakletos the comforter, which is the understatement of the times. What a misinterpretation..

I am here to tell you the truth, because the fun on Earth is over.

Don't listen if you don't want. Salvation of your soul is up to you.

Treat one of the least with respect, and you've done it to me, Jesus said...

Few have a clue what that means, and when the wrath comes,

it will be too late.

Question authority, please.

People have no clue who I am, yet they assume I know less than them.

Typical for the lost generation.

[edit on 17-8-2008 by Manasseh]



posted on Aug, 17 2008 @ 02:11 PM
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Originally posted by Manasseh
Sound waves from Saturn magically turn into radio waves which travel through the emptiness of space, and they just happen to know the frequency to tune into.

97.1 mhz maybe?


No Manaseeh, lightning is a discharge of electricity which in turn create radio waves. Scientists don't need to know what frequency to tune into, they only have to use what's called scanners and spectrum analyzers.



Even radio waves need a medium to travel through. Electricity, even lightning, pushes a molecule against a molecule.

The radio wave is no different, just a different frequency...


Wrong. Radio Waves don't need a medium to travel through as they are electromagnetic waves. Ever heard of Visible Light? Guess what, visible light are electromagnetic waves as well. It'd be extremelly bad for us humans if light couldn't travel through vacuum.



And how is it they know it's lightning??


Good question. I don't know. Maybe you could ask them.



By the way, a radio wave is just that. A wave produce by an electronic source, in a certain pattern. Here on earth, that would be a radio. For the radio waves in space to travel, would require electrons in space.



Wrong, radio waves do not require electrons to propagate. The carrier of radio waves is photons.

[edit on 17-8-2008 by daniel_g]



posted on Aug, 17 2008 @ 02:13 PM
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Thats fair enough i think we all should treat each other with more respect and im sorry if i have offended you.

but i dont agree with what you have said though and im sure that you know more than me though so try and convince me about that of what you said in the earlier post because im not so sure tbh

[edit on 4/20/2008 by billyjoinedat2k8]



posted on Aug, 17 2008 @ 02:14 PM
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Thank you.

I have info that some may not be able to understand.

For example, people from Saturn walk and breath with us
on earth. They look like us, except they must blink alot.

Look at John McCain sometime.

As on earth, there is good and evil in all creatures of God's design.

Be aware, the evil is winning, but as in Job, Satan must get God's approval.

We need to think deeper thoughts and ponder on what seems impossible.

How much does our governments lie to us. More that one would care to guess.



posted on Aug, 17 2008 @ 02:16 PM
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I cannot say if it was a lightning or something else. Also i am not that good in physics. However couple of points in your post are not correct.
Lightning is generating radio signals.

A Whistler is a very low frequency electromagnetic (radio) wave generated by lightning.

en.wikipedia.org...(radio)
And radio waves can travel without air. Radio telescope is a good enough proof that it could be done. Or it is just a big money laundering scam?

Light is also an electromagnetic wave (as are radio waves) and yet Sun is keeping us warm (too warm today, if you ask me) despite lack of medium between us.
As for sounds - it is acting like a wave. Just not electromagnetic one. This is why comparing the two is not correct. Wave is just a function/behavior/mathematical description of phenomenon observed in different conditions. There are different waves/families of waves/types of waves with different behavior and properties.
Wave explanation (much much better then mine):
en.wikipedia.org...



posted on Aug, 17 2008 @ 02:18 PM
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Actually, radio waves are electromagnetic in nature. Everything in existance is tied to an electron. Photons included.



posted on Aug, 17 2008 @ 02:25 PM
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OK, I like your post. You are right. Light waves and radio waves are similar but on a different freq.

Try to explain though, how the lightwaves are not only visible, yet transfer heat, and this discussion will get real interesting, and useful, as this thread is designed to question what we consider "common" knowledge.

It's leaning towards quantum physics, which is near explaining some of God's mysteries.

And yes, the radio antennaes listening to space are a giant money laundering scheme. They are actually lightwave communcation devices between earth and saturn, but we are intentionally being kept in the dark.

The scientists want us to believe that they have all the answers, and things can simply be explained, because that would actually move mankind away from God's true knowledge, which is,

we are incredible beings, with incredible powers through our minds alone. But to unlock those powers take the faith to move mountains.



posted on Aug, 17 2008 @ 02:27 PM
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Originally posted by Manasseh
reply to post by daniel_g
 


Actually, radio waves are electromagnetic in nature. Everything in existance is tied to an electron. Photons included.


Care to read a book in electromagnetism? (you are close though)
Electromagnetic waves are created by the motion of charged particles(electrons, protons, ions..)

Here: micro.magnet.fsu.edu...
You can think of the blue dot as a moving electron.

[edit on 17-8-2008 by daniel_g]



posted on Aug, 17 2008 @ 02:29 PM
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Don't believe everything you hear, especially from scientists how want to claim they can explain everything in the universe through their bunk calculations.

One of the problems I have with Dr Stephen Jones and his thermate controlled demolition theory when characteristics points elsewhere. No Im not talking micro nukes either.

[edit on 17-8-2008 by fastwalker23]



posted on Aug, 17 2008 @ 02:31 PM
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Don't believe everything you hear, especially from scientists how want to claim they can explain everything in the universe through their bunk calculations..


One of the problems I have with Dr Stephen Jones and his thermate controlled demolition theory when characteristics points elsewhere. No Im not talking micro nukes either.



posted on Aug, 17 2008 @ 02:31 PM
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Originally posted by Manasseh
Oh, I see.

Sound waves from Saturn magically turn into radio waves which travel through the emptiness of space, and they just happen to know the frequency to tune into.


No...lightning (or, if you want to avoid terrestrial-specific labels, atmospheric electrostatic discharges) generates radio-frequency waves in addition to the atmospheric shockwave that we hear as thunder. Those radio waves can be picked up by radio receivers. If you don't want to trust me, or trust NASA, you can test this for yourself. Next time there's a thunderstorm in your area, turn on an AM radio. You'll hear a surge of static every time you see a lightning flash. There aren't any sound waves involved with the space 'noise'.



97.1 mhz maybe? Even radio waves need a medium to travel through. Electricity, even lightning, pushes a molecule against a molecule.


Actually, radio waves can propagate without any medium to travel through. What you're suggesting is the existence of some "ether" that permeates space. That idea was (accidentally) disproved by the Michelson-Morley Experiment. As for Cassini listening on "just the right frequency", lightning isn't a laboratory oscillator. It's not generating single-frequency 'output'...it's blasting across a whole band of the spectrum. Remember that AM radio / thunderstorm test I mentioned earlier? Try changing the dial on the radio. You'll still hear the static spike.

Lightning doesn't need air to travel through either. It's *easier* to generate a spark across an air gap than across a vacuum gap, but that's because air isn't as good an insulator as vacuum.



The radio wave is no different, just a different frequency...

Leaves much to be answered.

And how is it they know it's lightning??


Because they can see the optical flash? Just a guess, based on the fact that ISS crew members can see terrestrial lightning from orbit.



Once again, your answer to my question seems to raise more questions.

But, at least you didn't add me to the foe list


By the way, a radio wave is just that. A wave produce by an electronic source, in a certain pattern. Here on earth, that would be a radio. For the radio waves in space to travel, would require electrons in space.

Something to ponder.

[edit on 17-8-2008 by Manasseh]


Why are you assuming that electromagnetic radiation requires a medium for propagation? We've been picking up radio waves from space since the 1930s . It's a not-so-esoteric field known as radio astronomy. Either your supposition of a medium is incorrect, or the Michelson-Morley experiment is incorrect and seventy years of radio astronomical data are faking their findings. I know which way I'd bet.



posted on Aug, 17 2008 @ 02:33 PM
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Originally posted by fastwalker23
Don't believe everything you hear, especially from scientists how want to claim they can explain everything in the universe through their bunk calculations.

One of the problems I have with Dr Stephen Jones and his thermate controlled demolition theory when characteristics points elsewhere. No Im not talking micro nukes either.


ye i agree theres much more to science and life and so forth than"bunk calcultions" everything cant be solved with numbers and calculations



posted on Aug, 17 2008 @ 02:37 PM
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Originally posted by Manasseh
And yes, the radio antennaes listening to space are a giant money laundering scheme. They are actually lightwave communcation devices between earth and saturn, but we are intentionally being kept in the dark.


Do you have a single logical reason why you're stating this? A shred of evidence for this? I'm continuously amazed at statements such as these.



The scientists want us to believe that they have all the answers, and things can simply be explained, because that would actually move mankind away from God's true knowledge, which is, we are incredible beings, with incredible powers through our minds alone. But to unlock those powers take the faith to move mountains.


Um, no. The scientific community is pretty honest about the fact that they don't have all the answers. This is a fundamental pillar of science, and it's why things like CERN are developed--to continue to experiment and test theories which at present only attempt to provide some answers. Again, what exactly is your basis for such claims?



posted on Aug, 17 2008 @ 02:49 PM
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Regarding sound in space, check this out:

www.space.com...



posted on Aug, 17 2008 @ 02:56 PM
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The scientific community has be taken over by the "Freemasons" of the world.

I'm not talking about individual members, but the secret society as a whole, and it's offspring, such as the Order of the Eastern Star.

Back in the days of Jesus, there were those who walked with Jesus, and Jesus told them they were wrong on some things, and they left Jesus and formed their own society, in secret.

+see John 6:66+

The Roman Catholic religion was started from this group, by a little know Emporer known as Marcus Aurelius. Some Freemasons consider him to be the father of freemasonry. Aurelius pretended to be sympathetic to the Christian plight, and took them (some of them) under his wing, manipulating them into the ROMAN Catholic religion, which is one of God's pet peeves.

The Truth? The truth lies in faith.

If I tell you that chair is blue, and you believe it's red, the truth to you is different than my perceived truth.

If I tell you the world is being manipulated by evil, and you believe all is good and healthy, then that is the path you will take.

As the Parakletos, I am not here to bring peace on earth.

I am here to reveal truths that exist under out noses, but we have been expertly manipulated by science into believe all the answers lie with man.

Then, when the truths have been revealed, as the bible says, they will have no excuses.

Electricity is for man to use to our benefit. A gift from God. Yet we insist on using in to manipulate and harm each other. This will end soon. That is the truth, no matter whom you choose to believe.

I am number 23. The end of the line. The last defense for those who want to please God, but have be wrongly manipulated. I hold no prophecy, as the spirit of prophecy is written for all to access. I simply am directed by God will.

Dark days lay ahead, even for those protected by God. It will not be a nice time on earth. But for those who hold out to the end, the rewards will be immense.


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