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Originally posted by altered_states
Didnt you post this on your original thread when you claimed that god is the moon?
Originally posted by EnlightenUp
Originally posted by altered_states
Didnt you post this on your original thread when you claimed that god is the moon?
Calling a concrete object like a moon "God" is idolatry and punishable by eternal damnation!
The Sun is the masculine gender principle, the Moon on the other hand is the feminine. Let's get that clear.
Originally posted by mdiinican
You're still wrong. We know you mean the circular disc we see of the sun when you calculate the area. You're dead wrong to divide that by two, saying
"lets calculate the surface of half the sun. because in the Venus transit we could only see one side of the sun."
That's wrong. We see a whole circle, with the sun's radius as it's radius. You have no reason to divide by 2 here at all.
In fact, you keep making this mistake all through your paper, as if, for some reason, you assume the 2d equation for the area of a circle yields the area of both sides of a 3d circle in a 3d space. it doesn't. It yields the area of the ONLY side of a circle in a 2d plane. Your math, and paper is worthless until you correct this 6th grade error.
I'm not even going to bother reading it any farther, since all the numbers you go into deeper analysis with are wrong because of this.
EDIT: And to that other guy from the old thread, who believed that the planets are real, but, like, chilling in the upper earth's atmosphere for some reason, try this:
Assuming you assume the earth isn't flat, arrange to have two observatories separated by at least a few miles observe the azimuth angle and elevation to the planet of your choice at the same time on the same day.
Heck, no need for observatories, have two amateur astronomers do it. I'm sure you can find some. The difference between how you think it works, and how most people think it works is many orders of magnitude, so you don't exactly need the Hubble for this.
Get the results, do the math, factoring in the curvature of the earth and the altitude of the observatories, all simple 8th grade trig, and solve for how far away the planets are. If you're right, the parallax should be insane.
I'd bet you every cent I have to my name that you're wrong though. Fully thought through, the universe as you envision it doesn't make any sense.
[edit on 17-8-2008 by mdiinican]
Originally posted by altered_states
reply to post by hey_amigo
What is different about this thread from the other one?
please note: when i speak of surface area, i mean that of a picture of a sphere, wich is in fact a circle.
i send my apologies, the weight of telescope owners, out weighs my theory of no planets.
my main reason for thinking planets were fake are that when i look at a picture of what appears to be outer space or a planet, even earth. it appears fake. it just coincides that i debunked their calculations about planets.
Originally posted by hey_amigo
Originally posted by altered_states
reply to post by hey_amigo
What is different about this thread from the other one?
this thread is updated, i took back my crazyness about god being the moon. i apologized about the fact planets are not real. and i calculated the REAL distance of the earth from the sun at the end of the paper, i bet you never read, cause if you did you know know the difference of the two.
Originally posted by hey_amigo
i did not divide by two, if your refering to "^2" thats exponent 2.
i said half the sun, because im calculating the surface area of a circle, when we look at the sun or a planet its 2 dimensional. im not calculating the surface area of the sphere and dividing it by 2
Originally posted by EnlightenUp
Originally posted by altered_states
Didnt you post this on your original thread when you claimed that god is the moon?
Calling a concrete object like a moon "God" is idolatry and punishable by eternal damnation!
The Sun is the masculine gender principle, the Moon on the other hand is the feminine. Let's get that clear.
Originally posted by mdiinican
Oh, I see what you're doing there. I thought you meant that you were calculating the cross sectional area of the sun, the way you did, and then divided that in two because we can only see one side. which would be stupid. But you're just calculating the cross sectional area. and describing it as something COMPLETELY DIFFERENT.
Seriously, you're quite difficult to parse.
Anyway, I'm quite sure you're wrong, since, doing the math myself, I find that, using your own numbers, assuming that for the moon to appear exactly the same size as the sun in the sky, which it nearly does, since it's a pretty good match during eclipses, the moon would be about 386,529 kilometers away. NASA says that at any given time it lies between 363,104 km and 405,696 km away, due to the elliptic orbit of the moon.
Putting my calculated rough value right smack in the middle, using your own numbers. That means that the the moon and the sun, at least, could be exactly where NASA says they are.
by my calculations, using your numbers, Venus would appear to be about 32 times smaller than the sun in the sky. Using the apparent angular sizes from Wikipedia Venus should appear to be about 35 times smaller than the sun. This also corresponds pretty well
As far as I can tell, you've got your numbers all mixed up and backwards, beyond any mortal untangling, and you're calculating the apparent cross sectional areas of the planets for no good reason at all. Just compare the radii. It's much harder to make mistakes that way.
Looks to me like you're going about all the math the wrong way, getting a meaningless answer because you used the wrong equations, and then saying that NASA lied. all the calculations I do work out just fine with both NASA's numbers and the physical reality of the situation.
EDIT: my calculations for Venus are for when it's between the earth and the sun
[edit on 17-8-2008 by mdiinican]