South Ossetia Death Toll May Be 45, Not 1500 or 2000, page 2
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reply posted on 17-8-2008 @ 10:14 AM by TheRepublic
the real cause of this whole conflict is that russia is a loose cannon and not controled by the one world government eliete. the russians are nationalists not globalists. (god i wish our country actually cared about our people instead of the global agenda!)

anyway the reason this is important is because when putin came to power he kicked the globalist elite families out of russia and took over. the globalists then created a bunch of "human rights" front groups to try and rile up international opposition against russia. "human rights watch" is one of those groups. they are where the 40 dead figure comes from. so that figure is not coming from an unbiased source. plus even if it is 40 civilians killed by a war of aggression launched by georgia, why is "human rights watch" not criticising georgias government for luanching the attack?

the reason why is because "human rights watch" is really "globalist agenda against russia watch"

for more information about putin kicking out the elite oligarchs go here:
antiwar.com...

With the oligarchic and semi-criminal elements purged by Putin, what remains is the corporatist structure, which is now in different hands. Railing at the Russian president from their posh places of exile in Londongrad, Switzerland, and the French Riviera, the oligarchs' indictment of Putin boils down to one principal complaint: they are no longer in power.

Flush with cash, and intent on revenge, exiled oligarchs such as Berezovsky pour their money into phony "human rights" front groups that regularly denounce Russia's "reversion" to authoritarianism. Some, like Andrew Illarionov of the Cato Institute, go so far as to accuse Russia of launching a military bid to regain its lost empire and advise the West to "consider itself in a new Cold War-like era."




reply posted on 17-8-2008 @ 10:43 AM by marg6043
reply to post by TrueAmerican



Actually yesterday on fox news they talked about thousands of casualties but they are in the injured side not death.

Even when I know and we all know that is fatalities the numbers seems to get cloudy and nobody seems to bring a reliable number.

Still when you hear of death is mostly from the Georgia site and not the Ossetia side.

As far as I gather the death toll in Ossetia is between one hundred and two hundred but I may be wrong.



[edit on 17-8-2008 by marg6043]


reply posted on 17-8-2008 @ 12:29 PM by marg6043
reply to post by Romas



Well actually they can do what the US did in Iraq during the invasion it was not accountability for civilian deaths and until this day is still not clear the death toll on civilians and a lot of criticism has been done against US and the Iraqi government from the many humanitarian organizations.


reply posted on 17-8-2008 @ 06:12 PM by TrueAmerican
Additional confirmation of citizen burials:

Mother spent three days trapped with son’s corpse

When the violence subsided, neighbours helped Taisia to bury her son in their garden. Now, five days later, they are exhuming his body to give him a proper funeral.



reply posted on 18-8-2008 @ 02:45 PM by TheRepublic
reply to post by abovethelaw



dude you obviously did not read or comprehend a single thing i wrote. i suggest next time fully reading a post before commenting on the first sentance.

i think russia acted correctly in this conflict by defending their citizens.

i am against one world government and the globalists who control my country like bush.

i am glad russia is out of the globalists control and fighting against them.

please read my post again.


reply posted on 20-8-2008 @ 06:50 PM by TrueAmerican
"Official" results on the death toll in S.O. are in, and again conflict with the reports of the OP.

www.russiatoday.com...

War killed 1,492 Ossetians - local officials

Officials in South Ossetia have released the number of people killed during Georgia's failed military offensive to win control of the region. Authorities in the capital Tskhinvali say 1,492 Ossetians lost their lives in the conflict.

According to Anatoly Nogovitsyn, Deputy Chief of Staff at the Russian Defence Ministry, who was speaking at a news conference on Wednesday, 64 Russian soldiers were killed in action and 323 were wounded.


That's close to what what said to begin with for them, but way far from what HRW is reporting at 44/45. So I take it the officials went around to all the families, most of which are refugees now in North Ossetia, and asked each one of them who all died and where they were buried?

I don't believe either side.

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