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Originally posted by Ocean Machine
Originally posted by Steve B
reply to post by Ocean Machine
I don't think I am indoctrined in any way, and I don't think many people on this thread would say that they have a doctrine of disbelief. Please if you think that this is an ice particle that is not truely reversing direction explain how, dont just assume we wont listen.
look....we have things that are proven to exist in and around spacecraft of ours....ICE PARTICLES
we have THRUSTERS on our spacecraft that are proven to exist.
why would it seem more logical to you that these are SPACE CRAFT which HAVENT been proven to exist, when we have a perfectly logical explanation in the former.
in looking at ALL of these STS mission videos (especially the one i addressed in the last post)....they all contain things that to ANYONE should be easily discernible as ice particles....
if these things were changing direction more than once in different directions, it MIGHT be more beleiveable as spacecraft
when you have objects already suspending moving in one direction...and then being accelorated in another direction......it's not a leap of faith to understand that it's quite probable that an outside factor is affecting those objects to be THRUSTED in a SECOND direction (CRAFT THRUSTERS ON SHUTTLE)
if those same objects were to say......change in 3 or 4 different directions, that would be harder to explain, since there would have to be more than one thruster placed facing different directions, possibly surrounding the object in question......now THAT is something a logical-minded person would have trouble with....not this stuff
The depth of field on the onboard camera PROVES the object was in the infinity range of the camera lens, as PROVED when the camera re-focuses on the bay doors. Thus, the object was not in close proximity to the shuttle for any thruster firing to take effect!!!!
Originally posted by TheOneEyedProphet
I love it when the debunkers post the explanations given by NASA...
Obviously they aren't going to say that what we see is a UFO, or something even more esoteric, thats the point of it all, to deny the outer presence...
The truth is that we as civilians don't have much to work with, but as Internos has proven, some can make real in depth research with the limited resources we are given.
I believe that we aren't just looking at ice and "weird stuff" coming out of the shuttle, to me it seems the particles and anomalies are in the upper atmosphere of the planet.
to the disbelievers, no proof will suffice anyway...
Originally posted by internos
You have already proven yourself as an IGNORANT, yes IGNORANT, mate. It's not a bad word: its the truth. Accept your status: you are an ignorant, i am NOT, many of us are NOT: YOU ARE. I hate people like you, people who comes here and starts teaching, as you did: yes yes yes, believe that we were waiting for you , for the the new messiah, that you are the the best and we are a bunch of people whatsoever. Go, go to GLP: they are waiting for you.
[edit on 17/8/2008 by internos]
"If you look at enough video, you see this as a standard out-of-focus effect,'' he said. "This particular camera system isn't designed for low light levels and it's being pushed beyond its specifications in order to zoom in on the tether. Under these conditions, the tether itself looks bizarre, because it's only as thick as a phone cord, maybe an eighth of an inch. But because the image intensifier is turned all the way up, what we see is a phantom thickness that's not real.