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NASA footage of 1991 space shuttle flight maybe a ufo spotted.

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posted on Aug, 17 2008 @ 07:31 AM
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During Sts 48 mission a famous and interesting incident took place:


now i don't know why in the video of the op this incident is not shown.



On September 15, 1991, between 20:30 and 20:45 Greenwich Mean Time, the TV camera located at the back of Space Shuttle Discovery's cargo bay was trained on the Earth's horizon while the astronauts were occupied with other tasks. A glowing object suddenly appeared just below the horizon and "slowly" moved from right to left and slightly upward in the picture. Several other glowing objects had been visible before this, and had been moving in various directions. Then a flash of light occurred at what seemed to be the lower left of the screen; and the main object,
along with the others, changed direction and accelerated away sharply, as if in response to the flash. Shortly thereafter a streak of light moved through the region vacated by the main object, and then another streak moved through the right of the screen, where two of the other objects had been. Roughly 65 seconds after the main flash, the TV camera rotated down, showing a fuzzy picture of the side of the cargo bay. It then refocused, turned toward the front of the cargo bay, and stopped broadcasting.

/3p8mac



Then a flash of light occurred at what seemed to be the lower left of the screen; and the main object,
along with the others, changed direction and accelerated away sharply, as if in response to the flash.



analysis of the video shows that:


  • The distance from the Discovery to the Earth's horizon is 2,757 kilometres

  • The UFO's speed before accelerating into space is 87,000 kph (Mach 73)

  • Three seconds after the light flash, the UFO changes direction sharply and accelarates off into space at 340,000 kph (Mach 285) within 2.2 seconds

  • Such an acceleration would produce 14,000 g of force (1g is normal Earth gravity)





Space Shuttle Discovery Mission STS-48 - TinWiki entry

A New Look at the Evidence Supporting a Prosaic Explanation of the STS-48 "UFO" Video

Chronology of Anomalous Events during STS-48 Shuttle Mission

Commentary on the STS-48 Video: A Closer Look, and Second Thoughts

Digital Video Analysis of Anomalous Space Objects - The STS-48 Video (PDF)

Examination of Object Trajectories in the STS-48 "UFO" Video

Losing the Signal - Proof That Time Stamps on the STS-48 Video Released by NASA Are Phony

Proof of the Prosaic Nature of the STS-48 Zig-Zag Video (Skeptical)

Response to NASA's James Oberg's Analysis of STS-48 Video

Star Wars Over Australia?


On ATS:
NASA STS-48 UFO Video

NASA Space Shuttle - STS footage & Strange Objects

USA shots laser at UFO video

Aurora video?

Firing at UFO's

STS-48 Mission on video.

UFO?s Prominent in Space

Looking for Some Footage

UFO Articles on AboveTopSecret.com

Space Shuttle Discovery Mission STS-48 Captures Potential UFOs on Film

We have had the luck to discuss the incident here:

The STS-48 UFOs incident revisited - discussion with Credulity Kills
with Credulity Kills: he worked for NASA for 9 years as a mission control specialist for the ISS (his specialty was the ISS guidance, navigation & control system).
In my opinion someone has mistaken what we see in the video of the OP with THIS incident, way more interesting.

[edit on 17/8/2008 by internos]




posted on Aug, 17 2008 @ 07:37 AM
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At that point it's quite obvious that the zoom of the camera is changed, you can see the whole view change perspective when the camera zooms in at 1:20 and it makes it seem like the object is speeding up because the edges of the frame close in on it and then when the camera zooms out again the reverse effect happens and the object appears to go backwards because the edges of the frame are going away from the object.

When the camera stops zooming the object appears to start going right again but it always was going right.

Go and watch it again and you will see it for yourself.



posted on Aug, 17 2008 @ 07:41 AM
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To know the speeds you would have to know the size of the object which nobody does hence all those statistics are a complete pile of nonsense.



posted on Aug, 17 2008 @ 07:47 AM
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Originally posted by fatdeeman
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To know the speeds you would have to know the size of the object which nobody does hence all those statistics are a complete pile of nonsense.

You have to be very quick, if you have already looked at the analysis:
at least, do you know HOW the speed has been determined? Why don't you READ before posting?



posted on Aug, 17 2008 @ 07:55 AM
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Originally posted by Steve B
mikesingh
Heres another link to an animation I did for that that film I already posted it earlyer but if anyone wants to see this motion tracked here it is again. Some of if is quite bizarre The comment tells you when to look out for similar large disks.
www.youtube.com...


Thanks Steve! That was a good anim.
Would ice particles behave in this manner? I presume not! Looks like they're intelligently controlled!



posted on Aug, 17 2008 @ 08:03 AM
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It's UFO as in unidentified flying object. No one in here is 100% sure if it was an ice particle, a meteor, space debris, an alien spaceship, just by seeing that tiny dot a few pixels in diameter in a many generations video on YouTube.

NO ONE.



BUT All other things being equal, the most likely explanation with the fewest assumptions takes precedent and that explanation is the most likely explanation.

Since all of the above postulated possibilities are scientifically and physically proven to exist EXCEPT FOR ALIEN SPACEHIPS/CRITTERS, and NASA, who was responsible in taking that footage never said it was an alien spaceship, then the most likely explanation is :

NOT AN ALIEN SPACESHIP.


[edit on 17-8-2008 by AntisepticSkeptic]



posted on Aug, 17 2008 @ 08:07 AM
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That is another golden one Internos, it is obvious that two of the objects reacted to the flash. If it was in fact ice crystals reacting to the thrusters I think all of the 'ice crystals' would have moved as well, and in the same angel.
Lot of links on this, it has been discussed on ATS many times.

As to the video mikesingh posted, it tops them all, even the tether incident imo.

"Nine other UFOs are seen forming a circle around it, in full view of the Shuttle. Ice particles/meteors don't behave in this fashion!"

I agree completely, I forgot what NASA excuse was for that one, they really stumped letting that video leak out, someone was sleeping on the job. For all we know these things could be everyday occurrences folks.



posted on Aug, 17 2008 @ 08:31 AM
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As I said, these things are only reasonably well explained, rather than completely explained.

This link has a relatively full explanation by Jim Oberg; it seems that spacecraft are often surrounded by particles of uncertain origin acting in a bizarre fashion, but they come from the craft itself, not another world.

Those were ice crystals, folks!

The forces that are propelling these ice particles are most likely to be associated with the NASA spacecraft concerned; they will be subject to electrostatic forces and the minute gravity of Shuttle itself , and are likely to continue in random orbits around the ship for hours or days. The electrostatic forces produced by the deployment of the tether will have stirred the ice flotilla into chaotic movement.

And yes, at least one particle does appear to go behind the tether; but remember both tether and ice crystal are out of focus and appear much larger that they really are- if not for the bright sunlight and the focussing effects the tether woiuld be an invisible line, and the crystals invisible dots. In such a case an out of focus small object in front of an out of focus thin tether looks identical to a large one behind the tether.

[edit on 17-8-2008 by AntisepticSkeptic]



posted on Aug, 17 2008 @ 08:35 AM
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Originally posted by Techsnow
"Nine other UFOs are seen forming a circle around it, in full view of the Shuttle. Ice particles/meteors don't behave in this fashion!"



Ice particles at different distances will light up at different times as they come into and go out of shadow. The fact that they might appear to be in a circle is pure chance.

To really identify the location of each and every ice particle would require stereoscopic cameras; this might be worth doing, but I doubt that it is a high priority, as it seems quite unlikely that there are alien spacecraft up there flashing their lights at the Shuttle.

So they come from more than dozens of light years awayand the only way they communicate with the shuttle was using light signals like we were using on ships during WW2?

That's incredulous.


[edit on 17-8-2008 by AntisepticSkeptic]



posted on Aug, 17 2008 @ 08:48 AM
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well it's hard to say what that might be, but it didn't look like anything that we know of that's for sure, thanks for sharing



posted on Aug, 17 2008 @ 08:56 AM
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At the end of the video , a object appears of nothing near the other unknown object , on the top right corner.



posted on Aug, 17 2008 @ 10:51 AM
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This is old video that has already been posted... it's not a new find and it's been all over the net for 4 years.



posted on Aug, 17 2008 @ 11:16 AM
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Could be satellites?
There are alot out there.



posted on Aug, 17 2008 @ 12:07 PM
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Proves nothing. Didn`t see anything to convince me to what is being proposed.



posted on Aug, 17 2008 @ 01:24 PM
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Excellent! I always love the NASA Ufo Footage, and the debunkers indignantly trying to explain it away. Thanks for all the great links Internos I'll have a lot to read this afternoon



posted on Aug, 17 2008 @ 01:32 PM
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No I am not bringing that thread into this one I was just pointing out why i get frustrated when I have to take time to just prove myself not even the stuff that is posted.

yes I don't have a great deal in hardware experience but I do know the theory, ohms law ect. If I wanted I can build a eletronic board myself the only problem I have is finding a legit manufactor in china to produce it cheap.

They kept telling me Dell dosen't design the motherboard but after that thread I found a youtube video of a lecture in harverd well it was a computer science class which they had a spokesmen from alienware to talk about the whole business.

He himself said they been bought by Dell and how they and dell work together they design their motherboards but they don't make them meaning build them they have motherboard companies to build it. boards.

I don't plan to brign that fourm in this one I was using it as an example why I get frustrated when I get personal attacks on me and being questions.

it's more like I am proven guilty until proven innocent.

So when I post something I first have to prove myself my background before we can even talk about the topic.

that is my point and will talk last about this . If you reply to this post telling me to stop bring in that post I just want to say I am not going to talk more about this fourm.

It was just an example to use for my reason why I get frustrated.



posted on Aug, 17 2008 @ 02:55 PM
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that STS-48 video needs no scientific explanation.....iTS COMMON SENSE

look at the rest of the objects surrounding the main object......when the flash happens THEY ALL CHANGE DIRECTION>>>>ALL OF THEM

it doesn't take a degree in anything to figure that one out.......the thrusters defintiely caused those ICE PARTICLES to shift direction...either that or there are 15 spacecraft that all react at the same time to some weapon in which the proximity to the flash dictates their change in direction and velocity.

people on here are insane.

[edit on 17-8-2008 by Ocean Machine]



posted on Aug, 17 2008 @ 03:00 PM
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I see nothing that proves the speed of the "UFO"

All I can see is an estimate on the speed of the "projectile", unless I missed something?



posted on Aug, 17 2008 @ 03:04 PM
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Originally posted by Steve B
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I don't think I am indoctrined in any way, and I don't think many people on this thread would say that they have a doctrine of disbelief. Please if you think that this is an ice particle that is not truely reversing direction explain how, dont just assume we wont listen.

look....we have things that are proven to exist in and around spacecraft of ours....ICE PARTICLES

we have THRUSTERS on our spacecraft that are proven to exist.

why would it seem more logical to you that these are SPACE CRAFT which HAVENT been proven to exist, when we have a perfectly logical explanation in the former.

in looking at ALL of these STS mission videos (especially the one i addressed in the last post)....they all contain things that to ANYONE should be easily discernible as ice particles....

if these things were changing direction more than once in different directions, it MIGHT be more beleiveable as spacecraft


when you have objects already suspending moving in one direction...and then being accelorated in another direction......it's not a leap of faith to understand that it's quite probable that an outside factor is affecting those objects to be THRUSTED in a SECOND direction (CRAFT THRUSTERS ON SHUTTLE)

if those same objects were to say......change in 3 or 4 different directions, that would be harder to explain, since there would have to be more than one thruster placed facing different directions, possibly surrounding the object in question......now THAT is something a logical-minded person would have trouble with....not this stuff

abandon.....your......assumptions.



posted on Aug, 17 2008 @ 03:11 PM
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extraordinary image mike.

Is there any explanation of this, to this date?



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