Another weird coincidence Neo's Passport expired on 9-11-2001 the matrix, page 3
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reply posted on 17-8-2008 @ 09:41 AM by undo
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it isn't so much that they think the matrix is real, as it is the concept of "maya" as illusion, which is basically a hindu philosophical construct and i quote:



Maya, is the principal deity who creates, perpetuates and governs the phantasmagoria, illusion and dream of duality in the phenomenal Universe. For some mystics this manifestation is real, but it is a fleeting reality; it is a mistake, although a natural one, to believe that Maya represents a fundamental reality or Truth. Each person, each physical object, from the perspective of eternity is like a brief, disturbed drop of water from an unbounded ocean. The goal of enlightenment is to understand this — more precisely, to experience this: to see intuitively that the distinction between the self and the Universe is a false dichotomy. The distinction between consciousness and physical matter, between mind and body (refer bodymind), is the result of an unenlightened perspective.


/37xg95


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reply posted on 17-8-2008 @ 10:17 AM by flice
I'm going to chip in even though I have no new revelation to this. Although I must say I was more than a little intriqued by this post.
I think it's important that we keep this kind of train of thought alive. Overanalyzing as one poster wrote. Now why would I say that in comparison to what I else demand or strike down upon?
Well first of all it's quite posible that we are being run around by those we "elected" to protect our interests. In fact I would put my money 99% of the time that they are looking after themselves rather than their people.

Coincidences are sometimes more than amazing. Wether this is one of those cases I will not conclude on. The important thing here is that a lot of us ever since that day have felt that something was wrong. Why's, how's and who's weren't and still aren't answered... at least not without a slight amount of dodge and run from those offering an explanation.

The fact that we ponder over such things, the passport date, is almost more important than the what comes out of it. It assures me that somewhere deep down, we the people know that we are fighting a silent war with our governments, and by allowing ourselves to ponder such a case, where we even have the numbers in black and white (this is not a case of "hm.... that could be something/I believe that that must be something") , we are presenting our discontent, our relucatance to completely give in, in a way which they can never take from us... free thought.
I also find the coincidence with this movie being small guy vs. unseen enemy quite interesting too. Had this been the passport of some guy in a lovemovie, I wouldn't make anything of it...


reply posted on 17-8-2008 @ 10:22 AM by Misfit
reply to post by Vector J



Conspiracy isn't bound to illegal activities.

I guess this is a one-liner, that's all I have to say !!


reply posted on 17-8-2008 @ 10:39 AM by Ceara
The Wachowski brothers are no more prophets than I am.

A few things are possible.

1. A freak coincidence
2. A reference to 911 as an emergency, not 911 the date. Emergency being a machine planned attack on the human city Zion and for Neo to be like emergency response person, which he really was in a way.
3. Inside information in Hollywood. As Jordan Maxwell claims, take apart the word Hollywood and go back to old times where they used holly wood sticks for magic sticks, a la Merlin-style.

I'm sure Hollywood is used in a way to hide information in plain sight, to give clues to people, like they are bragging, "Haha, look what we're doing to you, you silly, stupid people!"

The Matrix is more important in other ways, Philosophy for example. Please check out the videos on YouTube of "Return to the Source: Philosophy of the Matrix." In there you'll find references to "The Cave" and other interesting Philosophical topics, like comparing Neo to a Messiah, where he dies and is "reborn" with new abilities. Here's the first part. You all can find the other parts on your own.



And here's another interesting look at how Hollywood "leaks" information. Just one guy's opinion on YouTube. Not my videos, but I found them intriguing.

www.youtube.com... Checker Chariots of the Gods

www.youtube.com... Contact B

www.youtube.com... Contact C

And The 911 Stargate, also interesting.

www.youtube.com...

That guys calls 911, the "Mega Ritual" I don't post these videos to say that this guy has all the answers, but rather to just share information to allow you to imagine what possibly might be going on, to begin to see a possible bigger picture. The whole idea is to just be aware. Someone said hindsight really doesn't mean much. I agree. It only serves to show you how unaware you were before something happened.

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reply posted on 17-8-2008 @ 10:54 AM by DocMoreau
Originally posted by Misfit

I've often had this thought as well: which came first, 911 as a US emergency phone number, or 911 as a pre-concept of NYC? I mean, 9-1-1 is an odd "fast press" number, seems the UK, I believe, has 9-9-9, which is fast to hit. Just a thought.


9-1-1 as an emergency number has been around as long as we have had them in the United States, at least in my neck of the woods. Before that, zero for the operator.

More telling in regard to the 'alarm' of 9-1-1 being 'the date' is that everywhere else in the world, the date would have been written 11-9-2001, not 9-11-2001. Devil is in the details right? The 'perps' of 9-11 were American.

Also of note is the symbolism of September 11th being the beginning of the New Year in the Coptic Christian calendar.
The Coptic calendar, also called the Alexandrian calendar, is used by the Coptic Orthodox Church and still used in Egypt. This calendar is based on the ancient Egyptian calendar.

en.wikipedia.org...

For those who find the bloodline connections of American Presidents tracing their lineage back through European Monarchy, all the way back to Ancient Egypt, the message of 9-11 resonates differently.

I could go on, but alsa we are talking about Neo's passport.

While it probably is more likely that Neo's (aka the 'oNe') passport is coincidental in retrospect to the tragedy that occurred in real life, we cannot discount the amount of symbolism that the Matrix, and its sequels are filled with. Perhaps the writers were 'in tune' to the same numerology and symbolism that the perpetrators were. I don't know, someone should ask them about it.

It is not like Mr. Anderson would be flying anywhere anyway, not now that he is on the terror watch list. His passport, in effect, was revoked....
DocMoreau


reply posted on 17-8-2008 @ 11:00 AM by dodgygeeza
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Thats extremely interesting - do you have an source or a link because i'd be interested in reading more into that?


reply posted on 17-8-2008 @ 12:07 PM by flice
reply to post by Soldier x



or 18/2 or 9/2... just that was reaching a bit

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reply posted on 17-8-2008 @ 12:16 PM by tyranny22
reply to post by Masisoar



I recommend you do the same. Most times, the greatest skeptics are those that choose not to think for themselves but live by a herd mentality.

It doesn't take a concentration camp to lock up freedom and liberty. Just the right legislation. Which appears to have been laying in wait during the events of 9/11. After the attacks the liberty-restricting, un-Constitutional legislation was passed through extremely quickly ... without much debate or regard for the rights or interests of the citizens of this country.
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